# 360 Panos using DNGs

**URL:** https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295
**Category:** Panos by Drone
**Tags:** pano
**Created:** [11 November 2021 18:48 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295 "2021-11-11T18:48:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 2

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### Author: ![DroneGeek](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/dronegeek/32/71523_2.png) [@DroneGeek](https://greyarro.ws/u/DroneGeek)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 08:14 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/21 "2021-11-12T08:14:32Z")

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> [@clinkadink](#):
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> ISO 3200

Which is high compared to @Sparky at 100 iso

Just wondering which is the option - or would the lower iso give a different light on the cars?

Really not sure.

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### Author: ![clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/clinkadink/32/93116_2.png) [@clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/u/clinkadink)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 08:23 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/22 "2021-11-12T08:23:50Z")

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> [@DroneGeek](#):
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> up to now I have always used auto, which is probably fine during the day, but not so much at night.

As far as I am aware, with 360’s, DJI will automatically switch to manual anyway. I cannot remember in the above case whether I switched, or the drone did it automatically.

This is due to preventing “Auto” raising/lowering the exposure/ISO automatically for each of the 26 shots. If it did this, then some photos would be lighter/darker than others and make stitching impossible.

Regardless, when shooting 360s, day or night, you need to use the same ISO and exposure for each of the 26 shots. I am 99% sure that DJI sets it to manual automatically.

> [@DroneGeek](#):
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> Which is high compared to @Sparkyws at 100 iso. Just wondering which is the option - or would the lower iso give a different light on the cars?

That depends on the scene. Both ISO and shutter speed (exposure) can lighten or darken the image.

- The lower the shutter speed and/or higher the ISO will result in lightening the image
- The higher the shutter speed and/or lower the ISO will result in darkening the image

But if you want some motion blur, you will need to increase the shutter speed, i.e. 1 second or more. So for night time shoots, with motion blur, the only option to lighten the image is increasing ISO. The downside of using ISO to bump the brightness is noise. But this can be reduced/remove in post.

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### Author: ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 09:03 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/23 "2021-11-12T09:03:52Z")

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> [@DroneGeek](#):
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> If the Mini2 , then I have tried to avoid 360s

I used a MIni 2 in Manual Mode but I normally use Auto this was just a quick test, i didn’t expect it come out as good but stitching the DNG files makes it far better

> [@clinkadink](#):
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> DJI will automatically switch to manual anyway

I am pretty sure the Mini 2 always switches to Auto on the 360 pano and you have to set it back to manual before you start the process

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### Author: ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 09:06 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/24 "2021-11-12T09:06:24Z")

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What i don’t understand is the Auto-rotate is not working on this DNG Pano 🤷‍♂️

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### Author: ![DroneGeek](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/dronegeek/32/71523_2.png) [@DroneGeek](https://greyarro.ws/u/DroneGeek)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 10:30 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/25 "2021-11-12T10:30:04Z")

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> [@Sparky](#):
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> What i don’t understand is the Auto-rotate is not working on this DNG Pano 🤷‍♂️

Kuula setting?

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### Author: ![clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/clinkadink/32/93116_2.png) [@clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/u/clinkadink)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 10:40 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/26 "2021-11-12T10:40:49Z")

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> [@Sparky](#):
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> Auto-rotate

You can only use this feature when you use the “Share” option in Kuula. You can then change lots of settings on how you want the pano to display in forums, etc.

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/1/b/1b92f637584b8d5ae53cd0b1c6429541da875c97.jpeg)

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/b/8/b8d5a840944dd14af17f2252cffc4f55018a022c.png)

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/7/c/7c41fb336999ed7fefb9ba23875ad469150509eb.jpeg)

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### Author: ![firstadekit](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@firstadekit](https://greyarro.ws/u/firstadekit)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 11:02 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/27 "2021-11-12T11:02:32Z")

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I’m guessing in the first image the app has also done its witchcraft enhancement. The sky is considerably more blue.

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### Author: ![milkmanchris](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/milkmanchris/32/237713_2.png) [@milkmanchris](https://greyarro.ws/u/milkmanchris)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 12:04 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/28 "2021-11-12T12:04:48Z")

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A load of sky files still available here if anyone wants them

> [@Anyone want any sky infill image files?](https://greyarro.ws/t/anyone-want-any-sky-infill-image-files/14789):
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> Just tidying a load of stuff on the MacBook. I have 140 high res sky images that I’ve collected over the years, ideal for using on panoramas or just general replacement in your photos. Majority are jpg with a few png in there, most are at least 10000x5000 some bigger, a few smaller. Selection on the screenshot below 670MB download from my Google Drive if they are any use to anyone [Clicky - Google Drive Link -Clicky](https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oEzAQsr7BJ0rObr1rQLo8VFb39DfMqvD)

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### Author: ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 12:55 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/29 "2021-11-12T12:55:34Z")

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I did all that, always do. The one above is on the same settings and that auto rotates

The one below doesn’t but it does work elsewhere

https://kuula.co/share/NP06p?logo=1&info=1&fs=1&vr=0&zoom=1&sd=1&autorotate=-1.18&thumbs=1&margin=14&alpha=0.93

Bizarrely its working now!

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### Author: ![monkeyass0374](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/monkeyass0374/32/64683_2.png) [@monkeyass0374](https://greyarro.ws/u/monkeyass0374)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 14:18 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/30 "2021-11-12T14:18:59Z")

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Any chance of a copy I’ve just keep getting the trial version please for Windows

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### Author: ![monkeyass0374](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/monkeyass0374/32/64683_2.png) [@monkeyass0374](https://greyarro.ws/u/monkeyass0374)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 15:02 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/31 "2021-11-12T15:02:56Z")

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Do you have a windows copy

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### Author: ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 15:09 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/32 "2021-11-12T15:09:56Z")

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I will DM you later

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### Author: ![monkeyass0374](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/monkeyass0374/32/64683_2.png) [@monkeyass0374](https://greyarro.ws/u/monkeyass0374)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 15:11 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/33 "2021-11-12T15:11:31Z")

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Thank you

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### Author: ![Diveuk](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/diveuk/32/97543_2.png) [@Diveuk](https://greyarro.ws/u/Diveuk)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 15:35 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/34 "2021-11-12T15:35:52Z")

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I would like the link to a working version for Windows if anyone would be so kind to DM to me pretty please… 🤗

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### Author: ![Dormouse](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/71e660/32.png) [@Dormouse](https://greyarro.ws/u/Dormouse)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 18:42 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/35 "2021-11-12T18:42:10Z")

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I am a great fan of 360 panoramas and have investigated quite a few ways of sharing them online, for free. I have an Air 2S but previously used a Spark. Here is my current workflow using the JPGs from the SD card.

1. Stitch using MS ICE. Resulting pano is 23,552 pixels wide.
2. Fill in the sky using Photoshop. I find the best way is to resize the canvas to 11,776 high, draw rectangular selection over the sky and stretch it upwards to fit. This keeps the lighting and features. The sky is a little distorted but really doesn’t show when viewed in 360.
3. I make any adjustments to exposure, shadows, sharpness etc
4. For sharing online I recommend free Klapty. I do like Kuula but in the free version you can’t set up hotspots or virtual tours - and it reduces the resolution. Klapty does not have those restrictions.
5. For exploring panos offline I use the free Videopanoramas Player. (Far better than Ricoh Theta desktop version). You can make standalone executable animations with as many customised automated pans, zooms, speeds as you like. I am giving a talk in a village hall tomorrow and during the interval will leave a series of pano animations running, all at the full 23k resolution on my 4k laptop display.

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### Author: ![clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/clinkadink/32/93116_2.png) [@clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/u/clinkadink)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 21:19 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/36 "2021-11-12T21:19:23Z")

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MS ICE is good too, very simple to use. Why use the JPGs though, and not the DNGs?

Below is a comparison using the same photo, but JPG left, and DNG right.

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/6/9/696c09f03e2b9a229747aaea9f7a2ff8d8a21392.jpeg)

The DNG is better quality; sharper, less noise and more data.

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### Author: ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)
#### Post date: [12 November 2021 21:49 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/37 "2021-11-12T21:49:24Z")

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Another DNG Pano edited tonight using some of the @clinkadink advice 👍

https://kuula.co/share/NPYv4?logo=1&info=1&fs=1&vr=0&zoom=1&sd=1&autorotate=-0.65&thumbs=1&alpha=0.69

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### Author: ![Dormouse](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/71e660/32.png) [@Dormouse](https://greyarro.ws/u/Dormouse)
#### Post date: [13 November 2021 10:16 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/38 "2021-11-13T10:16:45Z")

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I don’t really appreciate the benefit of DNGs for all the extra effort and size. They are typically 39MB vs 12MB JPGs and require an extra step and more time to colour grade and sharpen etc. Looking at your examples, in my opinion there are more details in the shadows of the JPG on the left.

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### Author: ![milkmanchris](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/milkmanchris/32/237713_2.png) [@milkmanchris](https://greyarro.ws/u/milkmanchris)
#### Post date: [13 November 2021 10:38 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/39 "2021-11-13T10:38:58Z")

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> [@Dormouse](#):
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> in my opinion there are more details in the shadows of the JPG on the left.

But look at the noise

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### Author: ![firstadekit](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@firstadekit](https://greyarro.ws/u/firstadekit)
#### Post date: [28 March 2022 19:18 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/360-panos-using-dngs/39295/40 "2022-03-28T19:18:06Z")

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Any idea why Kuula is doing this to panos I’ve done today?

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/4/1/41e3bea1a432adc4663dec0df5467726888a6b51.jpeg)

I’ve been stitching them auto Autopano Giga. Pretty sure I’m not missing a step, but it’s been that long maybe I am!

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/4/1/41edf56f5ad0e838b57b6d18c78d72aa5f46a692.jpeg)

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/8/b/8b929468946723e422fcb6eff1e40afc04018183.png)

Taken with Mini 2.

I’ve tried doing the vertical alignment thing as detailed here but it does absolutely nothing.

> **[Uploading partial panoramas: automatic sky color, adjustable horizon line](https://kuula.co/help/partial-panos)**
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> Tutorial on Kuula | 360 Virtual Tours made easy. Create, edit, share.

Same result on Mac/Safari and Windows/Edge

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