Its linked to your phone via an app that gets your location from the phones GPS
Would be nice to know what sort of range these apps have.
Remote Identification
Network Remote Identification
Dronetag Mini transfers your droneās position and identification to our cloud. By displaying the real-time data in our app Dronetag enables advanced drone operations and coordination of manned and unmanned traffic in the same airspace.
Direct (Broadcast) Remote Identification
Your droneās info is transmitted via Bluetooth to up to 3 km (1.86 miles). With our Direct Remote ID, you fulfil all the new regulation necessities, and you are free to fly & touch the sky!
Hereās something I at least wasnāt aware and Ian in London pointed it out as he just discovered himself
Hereās something I at least wasnāt aware and Ian in London pointed it out as he just discovered himself
Nothing new
No firmware update needed, itās already active but like I said itās Geo-based so they just need to add the UK to it This is my Mini 3 broadcasting in the UK [image] [image]
@DeanoG60 did you get a screenshot of the drone that was transmitting RID today
No I didnāt
screenshot of the drone that was transmitting RID today
what was it?
whoās was it?
what firmware were they running?
what was it?
whoās was it?
what firmware were they running?
We donāt know, it was someone flying from the other car park (Car Lane)
@DeanoG60 got it on his phone using the Drone ID app but I couldnāt get it on mine
And then I put my Mini 3 into RID and I could track it but Deano couldnāt
ahh, interesting tracking it with m3
Yeah, was really strangeā¦ just shows how unreliable RID actually is though
Beware of āBug fixes and performance improvementsā in vague software and firmware notes.
Note just drones. In general.
Nothing more suspicious than a vague changelog that in itself suggests the update wasnt neccesary.
Well we did test an FAA approved RID unit costing in the region of Ā£180 last weekā¦ That went well didnāt it @PingSpike ā¦ Yup at around 250m we lost the tracking of it on the 3 devices that picked it up, yup 250mā¦ Completely open in front of us! Tested it on two devices. it worked āslowlyā but no range at all.
SO I guess for proper network remote ID itās adding a SIM card to the drone too, cool, thatāll work nicely on a 27.7g tinywhoop! FFSā¦ Otherwise a network of ground stations across the country at 500m intervalsā¦
It was ~350m, but yeah, not quite what anyone was expecting
Hey, donāt complain! If having that unit attached satisfies the āRID Directā criteria, but cant actually communicate with anyone - Iām okay with that!
Best of both worlds really, which actually raises a good point. I wonder if the CAA will mandate a minimum transmission power of an RID unit?
As otherwise, we could fit an RID unit but limit its transmission power to the point where only people who are VLOS from us would be able to track us. Id be somewhat okay with that really, as if they can see me anyway then they could figure out where Iām standing using their eyes. That should be ārelativelyā safe I should thinkā¦
Well of network required then thatās even more. Adding 180 quid to each quad (ok maybe they can be easier moved as long as you then donāt need to change the serial number of the quad or pane every time).
Also how am I going to cloud surf at 2km now? Pffftā¦ (PS thatās a joke, though if you accidentally went 121m or the GPS is inaccurateā¦)
Letās shove a broadcast blackbox to all cars so you can get details of where the cars been and going which not only broadcasts a few hundred meters but logs and sends to a networkā¦ Maybe even have to ask permission before turning on the ignition every time.
Itās BS and we shouldnāt accept this. Or comply if and when they bring it in.
Also adding a 100g device to a 30g AUW drone just because itās got a camera (Iād argue (and did in my response to the CAA the other day) FPV with a spotter is safer than a drone you fly LOSā¦ ) Would mean the device doesnāt work!
We can spoof as well, so unless they make spoofing illegal
Discussed at Knockholt yesterday. (As I compile the firmware for ESP dev-board)
One for radio experts.
My understanding is that wifi/2.4 GHz is a public channel. Providing I am within the correct power-range. At the data layer I can transmit any data I wish to broadcast.
If your receiver is using data to do something that your problem not mine. I am on a public channel sending bytesā¦
A suggestion yesterday (during chat at Knockholt) that broadcasting more data will be illegal ?
Thoughts ?
Any ham license holder give not-legal, hypothetical broadcast opinion ?
The biggest thing that concerns me, is that any mugger with a smartphone and app can locate me and my expensive drone, and as I primarily fly (at least slightly) away from built-up areas, I may become a target for thieves.
away from built-up areas, I may become a target for thieves.
I got two type of spoofing working at the weekend, reporting the sky was full of drone near my location but not centered on my location. USB battery poweredā¦ Will add antenna to increase range at some point
The lovely mugger is going to have to look at 200 different locations to find which one is my drone.
Built a WiFi/Bluetooth offensive and defensive tool, might come in handy to attack RID modules
Needs more testing but should work
Needs more testing but should work
Code ?
Want to try evilportal.