CAA Consultation - Review of UK UAS Regulations

So you jump from the company providing mapping to them controlling the airspace.

Chris, I think if you look a bit deeper into Guardian/ Altitude Angel, they do say they are developing an ā€œintegrated airspaceā€ Hmmmm integrated for who though ?

Yeah seen all that , but thinking that Amazon and Argos are going to get exclusive on the sub 400ft airspace is pie in the sky

Just for the sake of ease, here it is in picture form - what can’t speak: can’t lie.
First image: relevant section - CAP1868.
Second image: Altitude Angel using Guardian UTM to lock airspace over private land.
Third image: Altitude Angel FAQ’s - clearly stating that drone operators have to pay a fee to fly over private land… which is what National Trust properties, Historic England assets… etc. etc are. Question 6 in the FAQ’s answers that clearly enough.
Conspiracy theory? Good one. Oh how I laughed.



Good work

I totally agree with that sentiment Chris. The CAA and Altitude Angel seem to be dreaming of some sort of utopian future. To become true would need a leap in battery and drone technology anyway :wink::wink:

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they can fxxx right off!!! not paying for a privileged bunch of txxxx, who decided to donate their properties into trust to avoid paying taxes and death duties like peasants have to!

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Probably part of their master plan will be to eventually charge you to fly round your own garden.:joy::joy::joy::joy:

The AA (not that one) do point out the difference between controlled airspace and uncontrolled airspace when it comes to flight ā€˜across’ permissions.

Though if I recall, the CAA weren’t keen on controlled airspace operators charging for access … can’t remember the reference though.

Meanwhile in the USA…

not that unusual in America… taking a ripsaw to McDonald’s… if you can you can do…

probably need to get back on topic (sorry!)

Is anyone aware of a way of complaining about the basis of this consultation?
I will complete the response as they have requested, but I’d like to query / complain about the basis of the need for additional regulation.

The opening section discusses the need for the additional restrictions, based mainly on unsubstantiated garbage and the issues at Gatwick.
The whole basis of this consultation is flawed and I want to register my concerns (yes, I know I’ll be shouting into the void, but I am frustrated)!

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has everyone read and had a shot at replying to the consultation?

deadline in 10th January…

don’t miss the deadline!

consultations are like democracy and politics… if you cannot be bothered then don’t be upset when you end up with what you did not want, if you have your say (any say, even to say it’s bs for xyz) then you have given it your best shot.

2000 no’s are better than 100% silence.

no you don’t have to have the gift of the gab, just RESPOND!!!

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I know what you mean! I’ve just finished the consultation document and sent it off.
A feeling of ā€œat least I’ve tried, but I doubt it’ll do any goodā€ if the last consultation is anything to go by. (especially regarding opposition to RID)

CAA state that 2629 responses received from the last consultation.
Doesn’t bode well for this one….

well we have to keep going and plugging it… suggest maybe the GADC send out a call GADC members message maybe to ask for people to respond

it’s like this… say my council thinks it’s a really good idea to lower the speed limit to 5mph and charge everyone to park Ā£10 per hour… consultation sent out … no one responded… what do we get… democracy at work…

at least if it’s an autocracy we know where we stand. CBA does not = better, it just = thin end of the wedge as guess what in 12m time the CAA will want to ā€œimproveā€ things again, and the same in another 12m etc etc etc.

Just trying / tried to fill out this form, is it me or when you’ve answered a few pages it then starts to contradict on what you’ve all ready answered previous :thinking:

Edit : it’s ok I’ve figured it out.

yup, it’s purposefully set up to be confusing:

question 1)
. Do you agree or disagree with our proposal to allow C1 UAS to fly over uninvolved people in the A1 sub-category, aligning to regulations for C0 and <250g UAS? Please explain your answer.

Question 2)
Do you agree or disagree with our proposal to explicitly allow C0 and C1 UAS to fly in the A3 sub-category? Please explain your answer.

yup make C1 = C0, then dump C0 + C0 into A3… fly far away from buildings, commercial, residential etc spaces… got to love it!!! if the CAA see the risk to uninvolved persons as low… why is the risks to buildings etc now considered high?

I’m not the best at this it’s confusing the :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: out of me,
I wish there was a section that I could just say, what’s the :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: point in this happy horse shit ( wasting our time ) as you won’t / don’t or will not listen as you’ve all ready made your minds up !
So stop wasting our time & yours ( meaning there’s )
I wouldn’t or won’t do this but it’s pissing me off as it is all you guys, their running rings round us blatantly :scream:

Lastly they’re full of crap ! Sorry for my frustration.

Lastly
No disrespect to the police but depending on the situation it’s very rarely they attend crimes now unless it’s really serious, due to less police etc etc, government funds cut & all that, but they can find the money to work alongside each other for this ie ( police / caa ) ? Don’t make sense, go & catch the real criminals not going off topic & those who are a danger to the caa / airspace etc & leave us the :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: alone hmmmm wishful thinking hey !

No doubt they’ll be a separate number for Karen’s to complain,
The drone hotline, be engaged forever !!!