# Hello from Ukraine of all places **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions\ **Created:** [27 February 2025 18:26 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875 "2025-02-27T18:26:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![landswellsong](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/landswellsong/32/198856_2.png) [@landswellsong](https://greyarro.ws/u/landswellsong)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 18:26 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/1 "2025-02-27T18:26:15Z")
Hey, guys. I fly fixed wing (mostly), also an Ardupilot enthusiast and contributor. Slowly discovering the UK scene, may end up asking stupid questions. ![photo_2024-12-23_14-32-42](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/1/8/18b6fddff504cf35c4692a03113035c5f8081152.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![OzoneVibe](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/ozonevibe/32/12764_2.png) [@OzoneVibe](https://greyarro.ws/u/OzoneVibe)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 18:33 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/2 "2025-02-27T18:33:59Z")
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**Author:** ![PitchFader](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/pitchfader/32/241850_2.png) [@PitchFader](https://greyarro.ws/u/PitchFader)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 18:46 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/3 "2025-02-27T18:46:54Z")
Hi & welcome along @landswellsong enjoy 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Hotrodspike](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/d78d45/32.png) [@Hotrodspike](https://greyarro.ws/u/Hotrodspike)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 18:52 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/4 "2025-02-27T18:52:27Z")
Hi mate, welcome ---
**Author:** ![Onanist](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/onanist/32/88334_2.png) [@Onanist](https://greyarro.ws/u/Onanist)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 18:54 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/5 "2025-02-27T18:54:00Z")
Hi @landswellsong and welcome to GADC 👍 👍 ---
**Author:** ![stevesb](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/stevesb/32/12918_2.png) [@stevesb](https://greyarro.ws/u/stevesb)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 19:40 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/6 "2025-02-27T19:40:20Z")
Welcome @landswellsong . Another fan of ardupilot here, and there are others on this site. No such thing as a stupid question. But you may get stupid answers. Stay safe. ---
**Author:** ![Seadog](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/seadog/32/241770_2.png) [@Seadog](https://greyarro.ws/u/Seadog)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 19:49 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/7 "2025-02-27T19:49:00Z")
Hi from sunny Blackpool (UK) love your cat. ---
**Author:** ![robertspark](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/robertspark/32/174093_2.png) [@robertspark](https://greyarro.ws/u/robertspark)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 19:51 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/8 "2025-02-27T19:51:57Z")
hello and welcome from near Liverpool ---
**Author:** ![SeaHunter](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/seahunter/32/16011_2.png) [@SeaHunter](https://greyarro.ws/u/SeaHunter)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 20:06 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/9 "2025-02-27T20:06:04Z")
Hi @landswellsong and welcome to the GADC. ---
**Author:** ![new\_wave\_24](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/new_wave_24/32/176473_2.png) [@new\_wave\_24](https://greyarro.ws/u/new_wave_24)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 21:12 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/10 "2025-02-27T21:12:48Z")
@landswellsong welcome! 👋 ---
**Author:** ![Dragonqos](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/dragonqos/32/198871_2.png) [@Dragonqos](https://greyarro.ws/u/Dragonqos)\ **Post date:** [27 February 2025 21:15 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/11 "2025-02-27T21:15:49Z")
Heeey))) Im also from Ukraine discovering interesting places to fly in the UK) Слава Україні! ---
**Author:** ![bmsleight](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@bmsleight](https://greyarro.ws/u/bmsleight)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2025 08:11 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/15 "2025-02-28T08:11:01Z")
Hi LandsWellSong, Welcome. > [@landswellsong](#): > > I fly fixed wing (mostly) What is the attitude to drones in the Ukraine ? Are you fixed wings mistaken for offensive or defensive aircraft ? ---
**Author:** ![landswellsong](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/landswellsong/32/198856_2.png) [@landswellsong](https://greyarro.ws/u/landswellsong)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2025 08:37 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/16 "2025-02-28T08:37:43Z")
> What is the attitude to drones in the Ukraine ? I think we were headed to harmonize with EASA, but currently it’s a very moot point. The legal side of the business right now is you have to apply to General Staff office in writing to obtain a permit, but it’s very permissive. The most serious rule is that you are put in contact with the ATC to be informed about parts of the sky being closed due to military activity as well as report takeoffs and landings. Sometimes this means your whole region is locked down for the entire day and obviously nobody can tell in advance when it’s clear, so I tend to prefer locations with a café. On a flip side you get to practice a lot of unthinkable scenarios, like full auto, dozens of kms range BVLoS, very high altitudes and so on. > Are you fixed wings mistaken for offensive or defensive aircraft ? I’m in Kyiv so there isn’t much small drone activity around that isn’t R&D or flight training. And the kind of drones that people are used to daily are relatively large and very loud Shahed-136’s. So there is very little change for confusion. But you still ought not to scare people too much, especially some areas with known trigger happy anti-air. Also, stickers with your phone number etc, common sense items. ---
**Author:** ![Dragonqos](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/dragonqos/32/198871_2.png) [@Dragonqos](https://greyarro.ws/u/Dragonqos)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2025 08:43 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/17 "2025-02-28T08:43:08Z")
Before the war, there was no limits on altitude and height that you can fly. For now without special permit from military you can fly on your own risk. Ah I remember the times before it become mainstream, but now most skilled drone pilots nation is Ukraine) ---
**Author:** ![Jhdee](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/jhdee/32/12763_2.png) [@Jhdee](https://greyarro.ws/u/Jhdee)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2025 11:03 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/18 "2025-02-28T11:03:37Z")
Hi @landswellsong - welcome to GADC 👍 👍 👍 - no such thing as stupid questions on here 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Raider](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/raider/32/240402_2.png) [@Raider](https://greyarro.ws/u/Raider)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2025 20:41 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/19 "2025-02-28T20:41:46Z")
![welcomw1](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/3/b/3bd70491b3bc5e236d19a83af0ae0168e7a2c4d7.gif) ---
**Author:** ![JoeC](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/joec/32/16514_2.png) [@JoeC](https://greyarro.ws/u/JoeC)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2025 21:02 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/20 "2025-02-28T21:02:07Z")
Hi @landswellsong and welcome 🙂 👋 ---
**Author:** ![bmsleight](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/59ef9b/32.png) [@bmsleight](https://greyarro.ws/u/bmsleight)\ **Post date:** [28 February 2025 21:20 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/21 "2025-02-28T21:20:31Z")
> [@landswellsong](#): > > range BVLoS necessity is the mother of invention. Interesting insight - thanks. ---
**Author:** ![landswellsong](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/landswellsong/32/198856_2.png) [@landswellsong](https://greyarro.ws/u/landswellsong)\ **Post date:** [1 March 2025 00:37 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/22 "2025-03-01T00:37:20Z")
My biggest paranoia is being GPS-spoofed (which happens when an air alert is declared to misdirect incoming missiles/drones) while very far away so that the radio connectivity won’t work at low altitudes due to horizon. I do have LTE redundancy, but we have a ton of fields with patchy coverage that’s hardly suitable for FPV. The thought of a full instrument landing 20-30 kms from you without a video feed is scary, even though realistically it’s just going to be fields with nobody there. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)\ **Post date:** [1 March 2025 07:17 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875/23 "2025-03-01T07:17:11Z")
> [@landswellsong](#): > > I’m in Kyiv We were planning a overseas trip to Ukraine 🇺🇦 Hopefully one day soon we can come over and join you for a fly 🥰 > [@Chernobyl Drone Flying Trip 2023](https://greyarro.ws/t/chernobyl-drone-flying-trip-2023/39264): > > Hey Grey Arrows Members. Since owning drones one of the places I’ve wanted to visit is Chernobyl. Expierence the amazing place where the biggest nuclear disaster happened. The disaster struck on my 4th Birthday actually, 26th April 1986, some 35 years ago wiping out a huge 1000 Sq miles known as the [exclusion zone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Exclusion_Zone) and this where I’m planning on going and hopefully taking some of you guys with me. I’ve been doing a bit of research over the last couple of weeks with regards to this tri… [Next page](https://greyarro.ws/t/hello-from-ukraine-of-all-places/91875.md?page=2)