National Security Act 2023 - Implications for Drone Flyers

I can definitely agree with this, I watched another of his last night (something about C markings)… Again 5 mins and deep sleep. Thanks Sean!

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They were referring to a YouTube video on a channel called Geeksvana … he can be a bit verbose!

I’d suggest checking out the videos by @ianinlondon …. You will not regret it

As an example:

Also check out DroneScene (from the menu above). That will tell you if there are any restrictions in the area that you may want to fly in.

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Unless you specifically fly that is prejudicial to the UK and that was your intent, then you have nothing to worry about as a recreational flyer?

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sometimes I do smile when I see statements like this…

you only have to worry if you have something to hide… keep thinking like that… there are quite a few miscarriages of justice…

here is another interesting analogy why it’s sometimes best to be cautious about the (needless and endless ) proliferation of laws… I always wonder how many laws I personally break in a day, I would say that traffic violations would be my regular and persistent breaches)

seems someone wrote a book on it (us based, same applicable principle)

I don’t know if anyone watched this but it’s worth having a look at it.

If all this goes through without any clear indication of locations that are prohibited then we all stand a good chance of being nicked.

Moved your post to the thread where this is already being discussed.

I must admit, I’m tired this evening…This is just the ticket to give me a great nights sleep… Don’t you agree @GunjaFPV :joy:

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What it says is don’t act like a dick. If it’s a government/military/police station facility or building, don’t fly near it. If you think someone might have a problem with you flying over something, ask or don’t fly over it. Or for the ones it’s truly aimed at, the so called numpty auditors, stop acting like a bell end or we will throw your ass in prison for many years.

If you have common sense, aren’t one of those dodgy auditor people or a spy, you’ll be fine. :wink:

Yep, the problem as it stands at the moment, is they don’t have to tell you if a building / vehicle / ship etc, has been designated under this act. I wonder how many nondescript houses/ buildings there are up n down the country which are actually owned by the armed forces/ security services, but remain just that, a nondescript building ? An operator could, fly over these and find himself/ herself fall foul of the law.
Yes I realise many places are obvious, but I’m sure there’s loads out there that aren’t. :wink::wink:

It will pro

I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody is charged under this act for the very above, then takes the argument to a higher court as a test case, wins and then portions of the act are amended.

You aren’t wrong. There is one I know of in Essex that says nothing to indicate who owns it. A guy i know stuck his campervan on a field next to it and was woken up at gunpoint early in the morning by several soldiers asking what he was doing. He told them sleeping, until they woke him up. :stuck_out_tongue: He said their was zero no trespass signs or any other signs and it didn’t show up on any maps as being owned by the MOD. He had no issues from it, but he was ex mil and I wonder if that was most of the reason. So yes, this will probably catch someone out.

In fact I was wondering earlier, @uav_hampshire posted a flight over the Thames and they went awfully close to a RN university facility (and the drone glitched near it). I did wonder if that might be a prelude to getting a knock on the door for flying close to a mil facility. I hope not, but that strikes me as the thing that will get you a visit from the boys in blue (or men in black).

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Years back I took aerial photos from a Cessna on spec for people to sell to the property owners. It involved flying along the streets of a town or village and photographing the houses then all the houses on the other side of a street.

There were a number of villages around a prominent hill, we spent a couple of hours on task and I idly wondered about the rail tracks disappearing into the hill itself.

We landed back at Squire’s Gate and took to the taxiway. A black car followed us. When we stopped and shut down two blokes, looking remarkably like the Thomson Twins from Tin Tin came up and asked if we knew we had been flying around a prohibited site.

“No, but we do now,” said my pilot… :smiley:

I wonder if you worked Hampshire doing commissioned photos, because my parents lived in Waterlooville and ordered (and got) an aerial photo of their house.

Do you remember where the “secret” location was up near Blackpool?

This was mid 1980s. Of course I know but the Thomson Twins warned of terrible consequences of I ever tell …

Tl;Dr don’t remember.

Look for a hill with a cluster of villages around somewhere to the north of Blackpool. :grin:

… Google earth search later… after my SIM practice…

Keep at it! Good to read this heh

If everyone adhered to this rule, the world would be a much better place

Sorry, but when the exact wording, quoted at the top of this threat, is :

“that conduct is for a purpose that the person knows, or having regard to other matters known to them ought reasonably to know, is prejudicial to the safety or interests of the United Kingdom.”

Then the nothing to hide argument simply doesn’t apply. In other words, unless you’re actually planning a terrorist attack or you work for the Russian/Iranian intelligence services, then it simply doesn’t apply to you.

Bear in mind if the CPS want to prosecute you under this law, then it’s for them to prove you knew or should have known that what you were doing was prejudicial to the safety/interests of the UK. You don’t have to prove anything.

How far North of Blackpool ? :wink::wink:

This was mid 1980, I don’t remember details from then - especially as I still had the habits I acquired as a 1970’s art student.

I doubt that we flew for more than an hour to get there else we would have hired an aircraft from a nearer airfield. We used a Cessna 172

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