# National Trust Policy Correspondence **URL:** \ **Category:** Legal & Privacy\ **Created:** [6 March 2021 09:57 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818 "2021-03-06T09:57:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 12:26 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/739 "2023-09-18T12:26:02Z")
> [@Foley](#): > > As my friend was asking for info, Ask him to join us ---
**Author:** ![Foley](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/foley/32/118242_2.png) [@Foley](https://greyarro.ws/u/Foley)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 12:43 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/740 "2023-09-18T12:43:34Z")
He does not have a drone. Trying to get him interested. He is asking me on behalf of his friend who is doing the climbing, not actually sure where the drone comes into it or who has the drone. Unless it was going to be a request for me to do it. If it was then it just is tooooo much messing around and hassle and probably not possible. I have a few people I am trying to get interested but they are asking me to look on here for a drone for them and I pass the details on but they never really want to make the plunge yet. I guess they will at some point. ---
**Author:** ![D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/d0c.col/32/201486_2.png) [@D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/u/D0c.Col)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 14:19 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/741 "2023-09-18T14:19:14Z")
> [@Foley](#): > > He does not have a drone. @Foley Doesn’t need one Russ. I joined before I got one and I know there are ‘members’ that tune in for the info prior to committing to buy one. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Foley](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/foley/32/118242_2.png) [@Foley](https://greyarro.ws/u/Foley)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 14:25 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/742 "2023-09-18T14:25:09Z")
> [@D0c.Col](#): > > Doesn’t need one Russ. I joined before I got one and I know there are ‘members’ that tune in for the info prior to committing to buy one. 👍 Gotta get him interested. He saw ours and that is it really. Lol. ---
**Author:** ![ximi](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/53a042/32.png) [@ximi](https://greyarro.ws/u/ximi)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 16:52 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/743 "2023-09-18T16:52:00Z")
In case it helps, the CAA guidance does allow for the use of drones in follow me mode without the need for VLOS as long as the drone is set to follow no more than 50m away. The friend would just need to control its height if possible. I think this ‘exemption’ only applies to drones that can be flown in A1 though. ---
**Author:** ![Earwig](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/earwig/32/112833_2.png) [@Earwig](https://greyarro.ws/u/Earwig)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 17:04 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/744 "2023-09-18T17:04:53Z")
And finally (maybe), to play devil’s advocate, do the NT have drone gestapo patrolling every square metre of Mt Snowdon, ready to clap you in irons and escort you off the premises as soon as you launch? Search the forum for “Snowdon” and you’ll find plenty of footage. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/d0c.col/32/201486_2.png) [@D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/u/D0c.Col)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 18:51 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/745 "2023-09-18T18:51:50Z")
@Foley The Trust only looks after Hafod y Llan Russ, so as far as I am aware the Ridge and summit are classed as public spaces so drone away. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Foley](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/foley/32/118242_2.png) [@Foley](https://greyarro.ws/u/Foley)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 19:09 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/746 "2023-09-18T19:09:11Z")
I will pass it on. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![ximi](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/53a042/32.png) [@ximi](https://greyarro.ws/u/ximi)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 20:57 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/747 "2023-09-18T20:57:43Z")
The pink bit is national trust land according to their land history map… The summit land is owned by the Snowdonia National Park Authority, who simply say on their website: _“Care should be taken when using drones on mountains due to the high number of hikers. On Yr Wyddfa, all paths to the summit (which are also all Public Rights of Way) are geographically very narrow linear corridors used by a high number of hikers. The summit can be very busy, especially during the summer. More than one drone flying around in close proximity to each other could cause a considerable public safety concern.”_ Though they then spoil it with a mixed bag of ‘rules’ … [https://authority.snowdonia.gov.wales/information/filming-in-snowdonia/using-drones/](https://authority.snowdonia.gov.wales/information/filming-in-snowdonia/using-drones/) ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/8/d/8d3f1df992317b54aebfc5675db61811bdc3bd95.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/d0c.col/32/201486_2.png) [@D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/u/D0c.Col)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2023 21:24 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/748 "2023-09-18T21:24:04Z")
I wish I had my mini 2 when I did Crib Goch a few years ago. Would have been awsome taking a dronie from the kniife-edge. I took a GoPro up with me but it it packed in on the way up! 😢 ---
**Author:** ![gnirtS](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@gnirtS](https://greyarro.ws/u/gnirtS)\ **Post date:** [19 September 2023 05:23 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/749 "2023-09-19T05:23:58Z")
[The National Trust (nt.global.ssl.fastly.net)](https://nt.global.ssl.fastly.net/binaries/content/assets/website/national/pdf/the-national-trust-byelaws-1965.pdf) worth posting this here. The actual 1965 bye-laws they use. They class drones as a conveyance and ban under article 11. Have a look at all the other stuff banned that everyone does on a daily basis without sanction. Also finally, > Penalties for Infringement of Byelaws > 26. Every person who shall offend against any, of the foregoing Byelaws shall be > liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £20 and in the case of a > continuing offence to a further fine not exceeding £2 for each day during which the > offence continues, or such other maximum as may be specified from time to time by > any Act of Parliament enacted after the date hereof So if they did want to get arsey about it, basically £20 for a drone permit with £2 for each further day you use it. Bargain… ---
**Author:** ![D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/d0c.col/32/201486_2.png) [@D0c.Col](https://greyarro.ws/u/D0c.Col)\ **Post date:** [19 September 2023 08:15 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/750 "2023-09-19T08:15:35Z")
@gnirtS That’s interesting. Most Park related bylaws that I’ve come across refer to a level of fine ie Level 2, which is a maximum of £500 today. £20 in 1965 would have been a lot but today … peanuts! 👍 [https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/magistrates-court/item/fines-and-financial-orders/approach-to-the-assessment-of-fines-2/9-maximum-fines/](https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/magistrates-court/item/fines-and-financial-orders/approach-to-the-assessment-of-fines-2/9-maximum-fines/) ---
**Author:** ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)\ **Post date:** [19 September 2023 08:27 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/751 "2023-09-19T08:27:25Z")
The fine has been mentioned lots of times Never heard of anyone getting it > [@National Trust Policy Correspondence](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/25): > > @OldSoulBoy The only thing the National Trust could cite would be byelaws 1965 which has the following declarations (a) No unauthorised person shall: (iii) Ride or drive any conveyance over or upon Trust Property… a note stating “In this byelaw “conveyance” includes any air…” “Then states every person who shall offend against any, of the foregoing Byelaws shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £20 and in the case for each additional continuing offence a further fi… [https://greyarro.ws/search?q=national%20trust%20fine](https://greyarro.ws/search?q=national%20trust%20fine) ---
**Author:** ![Foley](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/foley/32/118242_2.png) [@Foley](https://greyarro.ws/u/Foley)\ **Post date:** [20 September 2023 08:11 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/752 "2023-09-20T08:11:10Z")
> [@gnirtS](#): > > So if they did7 want to get arsey about it, basically £20 for a drone permit with £2 for each further day you use it. Bargain… Similar to my AV Job. I did a lot of work in London and to park my 7.5 truck was expensive. Gaffer said, park on double yellows, it is cheaper then car parks. lol ---
**Author:** ![Foley](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/foley/32/118242_2.png) [@Foley](https://greyarro.ws/u/Foley)\ **Post date:** [20 September 2023 11:31 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/753 "2023-09-20T11:31:13Z")
> [@Foley](#): > > park my 7.5 truck was expensive One car park wanted over £200 to park a 7.5t truck and a sprinter van over night. ---
**Author:** ![JockyB](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/jockyb/32/188032_2.png) [@JockyB](https://greyarro.ws/u/JockyB)\ **Post date:** [20 September 2023 12:21 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/754 "2023-09-20T12:21:21Z")
> [@Foley](#): > > One car park wanted over £200 to park a 7.5t truck and a sprinter van over night. Tell me about it. About 15 yrs ago I worked for a shop fitting company and also drove 7.5 tonners . Absolutely hated going to London. Once had to drive from Clapham to Basildon around rush hour time. Loads of bridges across the Thames, but virtually none with a height restriction higher than the lorry on the route I wanted to take. Plus, because of high buildings the sat nav regularly lost the satellites. ---
**Author:** ![Foley](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/foley/32/118242_2.png) [@Foley](https://greyarro.ws/u/Foley)\ **Post date:** [20 September 2023 12:39 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/755 "2023-09-20T12:39:20Z")
Oh I remember the sat nav issues ---
**Author:** ![BudgieUK](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/budgieuk/32/166630_2.png) [@BudgieUK](https://greyarro.ws/u/BudgieUK)\ **Post date:** [20 September 2023 19:10 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/756 "2023-09-20T19:10:20Z")
Talking about fines …… this is from a Coventry ByeLaw from 1962 “Every person who shall offend against any of these byelaws shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding two pounds.” Not too much to worry about here either! ---
**Author:** ![ANDMUL](https://greyarro.ws/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@ANDMUL](https://greyarro.ws/u/ANDMUL)\ **Post date:** [25 September 2023 13:36 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/757 "2023-09-25T13:36:22Z")
@Foley Russ your friend would be better off with some action cams, maybe one on the hat, one each on the arms. I bought a little action cam once to take to a zipline experience but didn’t do the zipline because I would have missed out on the morning safari that day, the clocks changed where I went which meant so did the timing of the experience, maybe next time I’ll be able to do it. ---
**Author:** ![stevesb](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/stevesb/32/12918_2.png) [@stevesb](https://greyarro.ws/u/stevesb)\ **Post date:** [25 September 2023 21:46 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818/758 "2023-09-25T21:46:31Z")
Just to jump back on the NT aspect dronescene does show quite clearly that NT don’t cover the summit. And that is NT’s own data. ![Screenshot_20230925_224608_Samsung Internet](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/4/3/43eb6d986b893f359beba7ffa781d06d1755b0a3.jpeg) [Previous page](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818.md?page=36) [Next page](https://greyarro.ws/t/national-trust-policy-correspondence/27818.md?page=38)