# The speed limit - FPV and Racing Quad Style - Discussion

**URL:** <https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400>\
**Category:** General Drone Discussion\
**Created:** [2 March 2022 10:56 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400 "2022-03-02T10:56:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/martg1960/32/163649_2.png) [@MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/u/MartG1960)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2022 10:56 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/1 "2022-03-02T10:56:14Z")

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Went out this afternoon with my iFlight Titan DC2 4S and I think I might have a new entry for the leaderboard…

36.34m/s, or 81.29mph 🙂

Conditions were a light wind ( UAV Forecast reckoned about 13mph ) blowing from the East, so the speed runs were done from E to W. Not sure if just oldish batteries, or because it’s the first time they’ve been fully charged this year, but had pretty bad voltage sag ( down to 13V ) and they didn’t last very long at all - but they are just 0.450mah 😃

GPS speed data logged by Betaflight Blackbox, converted to .csv and .gpx using blackbox\_decode.

Pic of the drone

 ![IMG_9217](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/e/1/e17d9ea49fdae39f4ea7b06bbad140e9f92a01e5.jpeg)

Screenshot of gpx data dragged and dropped into Google Earth

 ![621e4d9a](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/2/e/2e9d8293c4b98b0caefabeb3fe8ce2e941933270.jpeg)

Screenshot of the relevant .csv data

 ![621e500f](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/7/f/7fb06e0fe6b4e705a7d59e9c413504c918f28594.jpeg)

![621e508d](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/9/4/94f9ed66248f460eab7d9330ef95c8670404082c.jpeg)

If anyone wishes to verify the data, the original Blackbox logfile is available at [http://martins-models.co.uk/martin/BTFL\_BLACKBOX\_LOG\_Titan\_DC2\_20220301\_161317.BBL](http://martins-models.co.uk/martin/BTFL_BLACKBOX_LOG_Titan_DC2_20220301_161317.BBL) . The fastest run was on flight #2.

Interestingly, with a logging frequency of 500kHz the total of approx 8 minutes of flight today took up 6MB of Blackbox memory - handy as the FC in the DC2 only has 8MB available 🙂

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**Author:** ![clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/clinkadink/32/93116_2.png) [@clinkadink](https://greyarro.ws/u/clinkadink)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 17:59 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/2 "2022-03-01T17:59:27Z")

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Wow, well done Martin. However, just reading the log file. I can clearly see here …

 ![image](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/8/0/80f6af6f2ffd6e32bf25d46c03fcacb27f151ab6.png)

… that the drone actually returned. For that reason, your entry is disqualified 😆🏃‍♂️💨

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**Author:** ![MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/martg1960/32/163649_2.png) [@MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/u/MartG1960)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:01 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/3 "2022-03-01T20:01:32Z")

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Next break in the weather ( possibly Friday ) I might try it again with some slightly more aggressive props fitted…

 ![IMG_9219](https://d1q8cepst0v8xp.cloudfront.net/original/3X/7/a/7a9a412784d357bc155595c9085ecc5e223354cf.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![PingSpike](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/pingspike/32/7393_2.png) [@PingSpike](https://greyarro.ws/u/PingSpike)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:10 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/4 "2022-03-01T20:10:06Z")

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> [@Breaking the speed limit - How fast is your drone? Find out on our leaderboard!](https://greyarro.ws/t/breaking-the-speed-limit-how-fast-is-your-drone-find-out-on-our-leaderboard/3186/1688):
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> Went out this afternoon with my iFlight Titan DC2 4S and I think I might have a new entry for the leaderboard

You’ll need to educate us non-FPV’ers please @MartG1960

Is the iFlight Titan a BNF type drone that warrants its own slot on the leaderboard? Much like Jez @Earwig 's [baby croc was](https://greyarro.ws/t/breaking-the-speed-limit/3186/1523)?

Can [@group-fpv](https://greyarro.ws/groups/group-fpv) confirm they’re happy? (@MartG1960 you can’t vote/confirm 🤣 )

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**Author:** ![MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/martg1960/32/163649_2.png) [@MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/u/MartG1960)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:20 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/5 "2022-03-01T20:20:08Z")

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I bought it in BNF form ( it was my first FPV ) though it is available in kit form, so the distinction between BNF and self-build could get a bit blurred here 😕

Is there only one entry allowed on the leaderboard for self build ? If so it seems a tad unfair to be have a 2" 4S drone up against a 6S 7" or larger…

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**Author:** ![PingSpike](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/pingspike/32/7393_2.png) [@PingSpike](https://greyarro.ws/u/PingSpike)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:26 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/6 "2022-03-01T20:26:13Z")

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We’ve long debated splitting the leaderboard in to two completely separate leaderboards / threads.

One for the “high street” drones (the DJIs, Autels, Yuneecs, etc, of the world) and one for the FPV’ers.

I think the time for that split is fast approaching us 😊

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**Author:** ![MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/martg1960/32/163649_2.png) [@MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/u/MartG1960)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:26 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/7 "2022-03-01T20:26:58Z")

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Also worth noting that the #1 spot on the board is held by an iFlight Nazgul…which is also available as BNF or in airframe only form…

Perhaps, to avoid the board filling up with a plethora of various FPVs, a single entry per frame size and battery size ? My DC2 would then fall into the 2" 4S category, while my Evoque would drop into 5" 6S IYSWIM

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**Author:** ![SirrRoyston](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sirrroyston/32/52106_2.png) [@SirrRoyston](https://greyarro.ws/u/SirrRoyston)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:31 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/8 "2022-03-01T20:31:37Z")

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That would be so hard to control tho. So maybe the two categories should be  
High Street Vs Custom/BNF/PNP etc FPV  
Then custom FPV broken down into  
2S  
3S  
4S  
6S?  
not too many will have GPS tho to record speed.

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**Author:** ![OzoneVibe](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/ozonevibe/32/12764_2.png) [@OzoneVibe](https://greyarro.ws/u/OzoneVibe)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:32 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/9 "2022-03-01T20:32:57Z")

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> [@SirrRoyston](#):
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> not too many will have GPS tho to record speed

That’s OK - an audio recorder will prove when Mach1 is reached. 😉

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**Author:** ![notveryprettyboy](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/notveryprettyboy/32/144159_2.png) [@notveryprettyboy](https://greyarro.ws/u/notveryprettyboy)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:44 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/10 "2022-03-01T20:44:54Z")

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I agree to splitting this up. But in the fpv category, no models. Just name and speed? Maybe split into 2. Wing and quad.

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**Author:** ![MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/martg1960/32/163649_2.png) [@MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/u/MartG1960)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:47 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/11 "2022-03-01T20:47:45Z")

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Why no models ? There’s a big difference between the capabilities of a 2" quad and a 7" one, so the model would be needed to differentiate

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**Author:** ![notveryprettyboy](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/notveryprettyboy/32/144159_2.png) [@notveryprettyboy](https://greyarro.ws/u/notveryprettyboy)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:52 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/12 "2022-03-01T20:52:12Z")

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Good point. So prop size?

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**Author:** ![MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/martg1960/32/163649_2.png) [@MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/u/MartG1960)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 20:54 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/13 "2022-03-01T20:54:26Z")

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I’d go for prop size and battery size ( 4S, 6S ) as commonly available items - excluding the weird homebuilt 12S etc. monsters

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**Author:** ![BadManners](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/badmanners/32/80738_2.png) [@BadManners](https://greyarro.ws/u/BadManners)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 21:01 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/14 "2022-03-01T21:01:40Z")

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_Ground-based_ audio recorder would suffice

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**Author:** ![Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sparky/32/241788_2.png) [@Sparky](https://greyarro.ws/u/Sparky)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 21:03 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/15 "2022-03-01T21:03:12Z")

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Would my bespoke self build, home made FC drone be allowed now?

> [@\[Camera Drones\] Breaking the speed limit - How fast is your drone? Find out on our leaderboard!](https://greyarro.ws/t/breaking-the-speed-limit/3186/677):
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> No, i built it myself and also the flight controller, its a self programmed STM32(Blue Pill) the software is bespoke

> [@\[Camera Drones\] Breaking the speed limit - How fast is your drone? Find out on our leaderboard!](https://greyarro.ws/t/breaking-the-speed-limit/3186/668):
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> Seeing as i am new to all this, might as well have a go! Make and Model! Home-brew Speed 52.82 MPH Going to do some tweaking! laughing Cheers

> [@So... what's on your bench at the moment?](https://greyarro.ws/t/so-whats-on-your-bench-at-the-moment/12042/216):
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> This is my self-built Quadcopter, It’s an F450 frame with 1000kv motors, 8x4.5 inch props, 30A ESC, Telemetry, and a self-built flight controller from an STM32 Bluepill development board

> [@So... what's on your bench at the moment?](https://greyarro.ws/t/so-whats-on-your-bench-at-the-moment/12042/219):
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> [[STM32 Quad-Copter] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAevr5mmk0M)

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**Author:** ![SirGunner](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sirgunner/32/37569_2.png) [@SirGunner](https://greyarro.ws/u/SirGunner)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 21:05 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/16 "2022-03-01T21:05:49Z")

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I think forget about frame models or bnf/pnp/custom.  
Spit into prop size and battery size. Doesnt mater if its bnf or custom build everyone is on an even footing

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**Author:** ![OzoneVibe](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/ozonevibe/32/12764_2.png) [@OzoneVibe](https://greyarro.ws/u/OzoneVibe)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 21:10 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/17 "2022-03-01T21:10:18Z")

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> [@BadManners](#):
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> _Ground-based_ audio recorder would suffice

Ummmmm yeah - that’s what I meant - you don’t hear the sonic boom onboard - or there would have been a shit load of high profile Concorde passengers suing for loss of hearing. 😉

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**Author:** ![notveryprettyboy](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/notveryprettyboy/32/144159_2.png) [@notveryprettyboy](https://greyarro.ws/u/notveryprettyboy)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 21:21 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/18 "2022-03-01T21:21:12Z")

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Splitting to battery size would expand things a little too much? Dunno. A thread needs testing.

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**Author:** ![MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/martg1960/32/163649_2.png) [@MartG1960](https://greyarro.ws/u/MartG1960)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 21:27 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/19 "2022-03-01T21:27:30Z")

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If we we’re going for a separate ranking from high-street/gps/camera drones, and going by prop/frame size only, then there’d be few entries as there just aren’t that many distinct sizes in common use ( 7 ? ) so splitting into 4S/6S ( and 5S if anyone wants that too ) would give more people a shot at it I think

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**Author:** ![SirGunner](https://greyarro.ws/user_avatar/greyarro.ws/sirgunner/32/37569_2.png) [@SirGunner](https://greyarro.ws/u/SirGunner)\
**Post date:** [1 March 2022 21:29 UTC](https://greyarro.ws/t/the-speed-limit-fpv-and-racing-quad-style-discussion/43400/20 "2022-03-01T21:29:21Z")

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I agree and also each prop size would only be relevant to certain battery sizes anyway if that makes sense? Lol

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