Wedding venue have requested risk assessment and insurance

Hmmm it’s actually the old Rolls Royce Pavilion club here in Derby. It’s fairly close to the Rolls Royce complex covering Sinfin and Allenton. Used to be a club for members at one time in the past, but has now changed into a sort of community based club offering all sorts of things. They run a Soul and Motown disco night once a month. Offer various social and sports activities.
I’ve had an email off them today, so now know what they mean by data capture. ( they seem overly worried by its close proximity to Rolls Royce, but I’m sure the wedding shots ain’t gonna pick up any trade secrets ) I’m arranging a site visit with them soon so I can start working on the risk assessment ( see what/ if there’s any potential obstacles outside, where the drone flight/s will be ) :wink::wink:

That’s hilarious!

Little overboard on their behalf me thinks.

Insurance is a no-brainer, a quick risk assessment and planning on Altitude Angel would be easy enough. Plus you can print out your flight plan from Altitude Angel too.

Data capture I’m assuming is just the photos/videos but that’s nothing to do with them as you are capturing your wedding.

Stick with it and give them all sorts of mind-blowing documents which someone has already said they will never read!

Have a great day,
Russ

I’ve arranged a visit to the venue next Tuesday, so I can see possible obstructions and suss out where best to film from etc. At least it will help me put the risk assessment together. :wink::wink:

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may be of help

Thanks Robert, had a quick look and yes, probably needs a little tweak here and there. Being a sub 250gm drone the 50m distance from people is irrelevant.
Useful bit about distraction though which is worth putting into my risk assessment. There’s always kids at weddings wanting to reach for the controls, or try and throw things at it. I did a short video last year for a friends wedding and there was one kid who kept running up, trying to grab the controller, then thought it would be fun to try throwing gravel up towards the drone ( he couldn’t reach the drone, but I was mindful that he could have hurt other guests)

The photos and videos belong to you, you own everything, if they want copies they can buy them from yourself. Just remember if they take copies they’ll use them for promotional purposes and you’ll gain nothing. You can write up a clause getting signed copies to prevent them using them if not purchased, I’ve dealt with people like this before.

If you find a safe location away from the guests but still within visibility of everything, you can prepare for uncontrollable invasions. Having a spotter can help talk & distract visitors from yourself whilst flying. Keep it safe

Don’t worry, the venue won’t be getting copies of any photos or video. I intend to take off and land well away from guests. Hardest bit is going to be getting them to do what I want them to ( and keeping their kids under control once the sugar rush kicks in ) :joy::joy::joy:

I was asked to do something similar at a wedding in May last year. Visited the venue about a week in advance on a day when lighting and wind conditions were suitable for flying. Had a word with the venue management to explain my situation, and they happily agreed for the drone to be flown without any problems whatsoever, they didn’t even ask about insurance, although I was covered. They were also happy for me to fly the drone there and then to video the venue (Cleatham Hall in North Lincolnshire) just in case the weather wasn’t suitable on the day. Drone footage of the venue grounds and lovely hall was used as backdrops for the wedding introduction text and end credits, which worked well. I can perhaps understand the requirements of your venue for insurance and risk assessment, but PAT testing a drone is ridiculous.
As already noted by Drumsagard in a previous reply, doing both stills and drone video at a wedding is fraught with potential problems, much better to separate these tasks for two operators.

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As said earlier, I have no intention of taking dslr photos whilst flying the drone. Think I have that covered by son in laws brother for photos whilst I’m flying :wink::wink:

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In addition to everything else you’re dealing with, also get the venue owner/ management to sign a property release so you can use your stills/ footage as you might need in the future.
Take a look at Easy Release Pro for a quck and easy phone-based solution.

do you really worry about this sort of thing?

I ask because it must cost someone an arm and a leg to pursue such a claim and given what the images or footage are likely to be worth… only the lawyers will get rich, which you can list as a vexatious litigant.

All photographers/ cinematographers should appreciate the value of model and property releases.
Imagine taking what turns out to be a showstopping wedding photo that you would like to monetize, only to realise that you can’t use the image commercially because it shows the property and you didn’t take 2 minutes to get a release signed.
Having permission to take photographs on private land doesn’t automatically translate to having full commercial usage rights for those images…
What the images or footage might be worth can vary significantly between the photographer’s assessment and that of the property owner (or legal eagle) who might sense an easy payday in the offing.

Would be easy to edit anything out of photos these days. In fact AI can now automatically remove the background and replace it with a different one. A few clicks of a mouse and hey presto, looks like they got married in the Serengeti with elephants in the background. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Well, I’ve been up to the wedding venue ( to aid me with the risk assessment. This is what I’ve come up with so far. Any comments ? Have I missed anything glaringly obvious ?

The helicopter identified in your Emergency procedures section should also be included in the Identified risks section.
Possible use of a spotter is not really a control measure, either say that you will have a spotter and actually have one or delete this control measure if you are not going to have one.
If you are going to have an evacuation plan as noted in section 3.5 then it should be written up and included with the risk assessment.
It is normal to rate items by likelihood x severity in a risk assessment with higher scoring items having more control measures than low scoring ones.
Have you considered a roped off area for TOAL & operation of the drone to keep guests away from it?

I’m assuming the venue have evacuation plans in place anyway ? At least they’ll have an evacuation meeting point in case of fire etc ?
I’d have thought a spotter would be advised as I will be “glancing” at the controller whilst lining up various shots ? ( and therefore lose awareness of the immediate airspace around the drone ) Max height is going to be around the 50m mark apart from the “asteroid shots” I have planned ( don’t need a spotter for that though)

I have updated the assessment to include possible airspace intrusion by helicopters. I have also asked for a further site visit within one week before the wedding, to check that nothing has changed substantially with reference to obstructions etc in the areas intended for drone flights :wink::wink:

Escalation plans for emergencies?

Especially drone hitting person, which is probably your largest risk factor

Couple of bandaid plasters’ll cover that I reckon :joy::joy::rofl::rofl::rofl:
( see maintain safe distance from people in my method statement) I see what you’re getting at though. Something to think about :wink::wink:

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