Altitude angel info

Am I missing something here :thinking: ok, so I do the biz with this. Fill in all the required. No one else has input any info for the area, so all ok. No prople about, no nothing! Take off and then get microlights buzzing around. Is there something I’m not seeing on this app? What do these people use to notify others that they are up there. Maybe another app!? I would want to tell the whole world and its wife I’m flying around up there. I dare say if anything happened, it will always be the drone pilot’s fault :roll_eyes: Do you all use this or do you use something else that is available to a wider group of airspace users? Surely this isn’t right to not have any info. What am I not seeing people?

100% correct, thats why the VLOS rule applies. a drone pilot must ALWAYS give right of way to manned aircraft. :+1:t2:

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Drone scene is what i use but i understand it uses the same data… please correct if I’m wrong.

Seen the same with aircraft low level on Exmoor.

I honestly set the perameters of my air 2s and fpv to 500m by 50m height, no more, just as well with what I see! I keep to the rules and enjoy what I do so much, what a great hobby. but it appears to be a one sided idea of being responsible to others and their safety. Do you all use altitude angel everytime you fly? Surely there must be notification rules that apply to manned craft of sorts!?

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it’s just a guide mate. I only add a report if I’m flying in a area with known Karen’s or an area with the public. So I have some documentation of my flight to appease anybody who challenges me.

also a flight report is different to a NOTAM. I’m pretty sure manned aircraft use NOTAMs more than the flight reports.

It’s a ’ I’ve done everything right’ feeling.

I flew at valley of the rocks yesterday and didn’t put up a notice. Last minute flight. ,Up, photo, return sort of flight

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It uses the Altitude Angel dataset yes

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I use Drone Assist UK.

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Same data set, not as pretty though or as many features

They’ll be using Visial Flight Rules I imagine so ought to be, in theory anyway, at about 300m above the ground and around 140 knots so they can appear quite suddenly if your in a hilly area.

Agreed, but my point was about no flights logged on Dronescene/Altitude Angel.

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You only log a flight plan in controlled areas, so if it’s an E or G airspace area no flight plan need exist. Dartmoor is pretty much G except the range areas, which is also the same for most UK airspace.

Thanks for your help. But it would make sense and be safer if anyone who uses airspace make it known to all on an app like altitude angel.

What’s the fixation with altitude angel ?

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Sense and safe seldom go together or mix well when they do.

At 300m in clear air you have a line of sight of over 1.5km, as your plane and any others will be observing VFR’s there’s a big safe time to assess and act. Near miss incidents tend to happen in controlled airspace where it gets a bit crowded and people don’t follow the correct rule set.

If pilots are following the rules even visual navigation, following rivers and roads is safe as you stay on the right of whatever it is you’re following. Kind of why drones can be a problem if they’re high and probably won’t be following the same rules.

No fixation, it could be any app. I was just wondering if I was missing something as to why I appear to be the only one in the area of many varied airspace users to be highlighted on it :thinking:

As a fixed wing light aircraft pilot, I can’t say I’ve ever checked for notified presence of drones, other than NOTAMs which I check prior to every flight - and hobbyist activities are unlikely to be triggering NOTAMs. Indeed, until I started getting interested in drones recently, I wasn’t even aware there was a platform for notifying drone flights. Having said that, the chances of light aircraft and drones coming into conflict in open uncontrolled airspace (class G) is rather remote as we don’t tend to fly as low as 400ft (there’s a 500ft clear of any object, person etc rule for aircraft except when taking off and landing) - and if you’re flying a drone near any airfield, whether in a restricted area or not, you as a drone pilot should be much more cautious about your actions. Light aircraft mainly fly VFR (visual flight rules, for separation) but I think the chances of spotting a small drone below the level I’m flying at (i.e. against the ground) while flying at 100kts plus is rather remote.

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Just to add, again as a fixed wing light aircraft pilot, I really don’t think I’d be too concerned about hobbyist drones at 400ft or below, non-NOTAMed. Our rules are to fly no closer than 500ft from any man made object or person, and while that could be 1ft above the ground and 500ft laterally from an object, most light aircraft pilots tend to stick 500ft or more above the ground to remove any ambiguity or risk of being reported for low flying - and give themselves a chance of finding somewhere to land if it all goes quiet. The 500ft rule doesn’t apply to taking off or landing of course, but in the vicinity of any aerodrome I’d rather hope drone flyers would be more circumspect and notify the airfield if they planned to fly in the area. All this does of course nicely illustrate why hobbyist drones are meant to be kept below 400ft, while aircraft are typically above 500ft.

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I appreciate your comments. The great thing about my dji drones is that if a light aircraft is about, they flag a warning before it could be seen or heard. Triggering action to drop altitude and prepare for landing when the plane comes into view. Pity the same can’t be said about microlights and especially hang gliders

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Lots don’t have ADSB though so don’t rely on it :frowning:

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