UA/UAS TYVM 
And this is why, in my opinion, engaging with councils is just pointless.
Just go out and fly. I flew in Oxfordshire yesterday and I just based my flying around air maps and public rights of way. I didnât even bother looking up bylaws. Iâm getting slack. I blame the Birthday comp.
3 Likes
Invalid byelaw under current legislation. The CAA regulations cover the safety aspect of flight. Attempts by local councils to duplicate or contradict the CAA regs cannot be enforced.
Also doesnât even mention aircraft. Aircraft are not âvehiclesâ as would be defined by this byelaw.
Councils will try to tell you a byelaw about ox-drawn carts applies to drones. Just fly the damn things.
3 Likes
This
1 Like
Councils think they can contradict national legislation and apply very liberal interpretations of byelaws in ways that are manifestly absurd. Engaging with them is fruitless 99.9% of the time.
Iâve yet to even hear a story of someone getting done under one of these byelaws all these councils claim to have. Even the ones that do explicitly apply to âmodel aircraftâ seem to have no enforcement because while the councils might talk tough I think they all know theyâre incompatible with national law and and trying to enforce them would open them up to a huge liability in judicial review.
3 Likes
One that Iâm aware of:
2 Likes
Iâd be interested to know their stance on other types of recreational craft - remote controlled cars, boats etc⌠i would have though it would be fairly simple to fit a camera to either, and a wheeled vehicle travelling at high speed controlled by a sub 10 year old would, IMO, pose a far higher risk.
1 Like
If they donât have a byelaw that specifically covers it you can go at it. Read Hall v. Beckenham, itâs the relevant caselaw.
1 Like
I didnât say there were none⌠just very few when compared to other typical risks
1 Like
It makes no reference to height off of the ground, I wonder if it bans commercial aeroplanes flying over it too? 
TOAL maybe, but canât see flying over it as enforceable.
This is a bit of boiler-plate guff that is in most councilâs âparks and pleasure groundsâ byelaws. I suspect they were all pretty much identical at some point in the dim, distant past.
The bit that makes me laugh is in the response where he says, âto prevent filming of children in park areas and paddling poolsâ. Whereâs their byelaw banning the use of mobile phones, which literally everyone carries these days, making them a far greater risk in this respect?
Honestly, the whole thing is a farce. 
1 Like
it says into the GroundâŚit makes no mention of airspace so iâd send it !
1 Like
hold onâŚmobility scooters ?
2 Likes
Banned mate
1 Like
Itâs true. Are they actually insinuating that anyone flying a drone is a risk of noncery?
âInvalid carriagesâ as our very modern 21st century laws describes them.
So this is them using lots of legal language to say that we can fly over, following the drone code but canât TOAL
2 Likes
To some people thatâs scary language that could put them off flying over. It could be so much better saying no TOAL but otherwise follow the drone code.
1 Like