Beddington Park - Added to Parks and Recreation in London

I have just added this to the map of places to fly your drone at Drone Scene:

Land owner permission obtained.

Permission to fly is complex - https://moderngov.sutton.gov.uk/Data/Strategy%20Committee/20040405/Agenda/%24Report%20for%20item%207%20%20Appendix%20A.doc.pdf

"power-driven" means driven by the combustion of petrol vapour or other combustible substances. No person in the ground shall release any jet-propelled or rocket-Propelled power- driven model aircraft for flight or control the flight of such an aircraft.
Byelaw shall not apply to areas set aside by the Council for the flying of such
power-driven model aircraft in Beddington Park.

So either a drone is not powered an fly all the time. Otherwise is power can depending upon the * is radio controlled.

Just fly it is a big park.

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 17/11/2023. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location.

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I wonder if Suttons by-law has changed on this very recently.
I feel battery-powered would be caught by the bylaws interpretation.

The document suggests that only control-line UAVs are permitted in Beddington Park (do people still fly these?), but radio-controlled is allowed at nearby but much smaller Roundshaw Park.

Your call. I feel a reasonable interpretation of the by-laws is different. I have flown lots in the park without hassle. Its a big park.

I seen people climbing in the park, skateboarding, ball games …

I expect to be removed as per clause 48 if they feel an infraction … “Where the infraction of the byelaw is committed within the view of such officer or constable, and the name and residence of the person infringing the byelaw are unknown to and cannot be readily ascertained by such officer or constable”

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Not anymore, It’s look like Roundshaw Park is on the list aswell unfortunately:( It’s clearly stated that “radio-controlled” means controlled by a radio signal from a wireless transmitter or
similar device are not allow.Just checked it as i wish to go for fly to Beddington Park tomorrow. And there is quite long list where flying drone is prohibited.

I flown lots at Beddington - FPV even more disruptive than a DJI mini 4 Pro
I see / heard other drones at at the park.

The worse is a per clause 48 if they feel an infraction - a constable may ask me to leave.

Just send it.

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It looks like every park in Sutton and Epsom got bloody byelaws against drones!!! This is ridiculous! I will risk and fly anyway :+1:t2:

I read Byelaws 38 through 41 in Part 6, and the Table in Schedule 1, as applying to power-driven model aircraft, where power-driven means driven by combustion or jet propulsion … which a drone is not. The control method … radio-controlled … applies to a “power-driven model aircraft”, which a drone is not. That’s just my opinion, but the basis on which I fly my drone in Beddington Park and Roundshaw.

What’s clause 48?

Its really confusing… I did find reply from Sutton Council regarding byelaws in the parks…

I agree Sutton Council are trying to stretch the definition and confuse.
“FUD” is an acronym for “fear, uncertainty, and doubt”

Imagine if there was a specific rule the FOI would be clear. I am not falling for the FUD.

Send it.

So I take the following from Sutton Borough Council’s response…

“Recreational drones can be classed as model aircraff”… not shall be.

“The Civil Aviation Authority guidance refers to both”, model aircraft and drones… so what does the CAA say about drone flying?

“When the byelaws are updated the Council will include specific references to drones for greater clarity”… so the current byelaws do not specifically refer to drones and are unclear.

No doubt when the Byelaws are updated, it won’t be for the better for recreational drone flyers, but until then…

Again, that’s just my opinion.

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