Happy end of year all, signing off for 2024 with this - but it is just a first attempt of something much bigger I have planned for early next year. I have decided this is my new playground to properly sharpen my skills and start doing some decent stuff. This is a selection of rescued footage from this week when wind gusts were in the mid 40’s.
Thanks for all the guidance so far… and get some your sound up / decent speakers on for the video
I have decided that I am going to do a longer edit of this site by Spring, probably around 8 mins odd and featuring as much of the site as I can (its huge with a fair bit of landmarks and monuments of interest).
Popped back today and had a feel for what might be possible, much of it will be ground or near ground level, with some circling of smaller features and flying into and out of things. Put together a small 1 min teaser but this will be a fairly lengthy project to get what I want.
Funny you mention that as I did today for the first time, yes. Apparently the US part of the site is diplomatic and he said you cant fly there. Its open land, and open air, so I am not convinced he is correct, however, he and everyone else down there seem very pro and dont have a problem with it. Even dog walkers stop to chat. As I was finishing up anyway I agreed to the request, but I wonder what the official line is.
I dont plan on capturing wording in the project but will be covering a fair bit of ground there.
The original pre-2012 management forbid any photos. I contacted the management team in Nov 2013 and they gave me the photo permission (except for readable headstones and in good taste). The no photography signs remained in place on site as I remember. The cemetery has since been sold to Woking Council, so they might have changed the policy.
The military section might have different policies too. I assumed the photography permissions there were more permissive. In fact, I thought the military section was managed by The Commonwealth War Graves Commission as a separate entity from the main cemetery.
The issue is that it is all well and good management saying you can’t take photos, but this is in conflict with legal and official rules. What you have in this situation is the landowner, or the authority that exists on the day to manage the land, objecting to your presence and activity. In which case, the only course of action to them is to request that you leave, and by refusing to do so thereby making you a trespasser. Trespass in itself is civil meaning that if you refuse, the landowner should seek civil action - but as you can see already, it starts to get very complicated and protracted very quickly with no quick solution open to anybody to change the status quo. The police will not attend, it is not a criminal matter. There is a chance that military police may attend but that is questionable. And even then, if I chose to be pedantic (I don’t tend to) I would willingly await their very long arrival to have a sensible conversation around the why’s and wherefores. And I am uncertain as to who owns the land as the site is a mixture of private land and public thoroughfare.
Having spoken to the staff there a few times they have made it clear that filming and flying is fine, in fact I am surprised at how much interest and positivity I have had there. Tim, the memorial is a public place with a public footpath / bridleway that runs directly through it to the rail station. I am all for keeping relationships and respecting the rules of the land, however, you simply cannot enforce rules that don’t exist.
I don’t think there are public footpaths or bridleways through the cemetery but I agree with everything else you said. I’d describe it as a “permissive access”. The rights of way map for surrey is here: Countryside interactive map - Surrey County Council
I totally agree, however, it just didnt need a challenge or argument at the time and to be fair, the guy was as non confrontational and polite as you could get. I close not to point out that the air above us was unrestricted!
There are definitely some OS marked footpaths Tim, I lived next to it for 6 years and you can access the rail station from the Gole Rd side. There’s also public gates dotted around the site which are open 24/7 for ingress and egress.