DJI Mini 5 all versions - Rumours, leaks, gossip and general discussion

Given in and ordered it, I am a sucker for new things lol
Anyone want a Air 3S with extras?

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Re the dongle 2

The mini 4 mounting seems broadly compatible
It straps on securely, allowingly the landing led to work fine etc. Im comfortable flying with the 4’s hardware attached to the 5.

Software wise. There is no current support or plans for an update. Apparently this is due to the 5 having an integral e-sim which currently only works in main land china..

Thanks, that’s what I thought but not sure it says much for Dji not fogging this up.

Flagging not fogging, stupid autocorrect

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Mini 5 arrived

Just weighed
Drone 251g
Mini 5 batteries. 70g

Mini 4 battery 77g

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Well that happened fast! We are now out of stock of the Mini 5 Pro Combo with RC2 but we do still have stock of the Standard Version. I have put a simple box you can fill in if you would like to know when we get more stock which is already on order. Regards, Chris at Leicesterdrones.com

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Are you guys planning on sourcing some original dji extended batteries for the 5?

Or is that a legal nono?

Yes we would like to get the Flight Battery Plus for the Mini 5 Pro but we are told they are not available in UK currently. I will see what I can do. Regards, Chris at Leicesterdrones.com

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No such wording exists in the EASA regulations at all on any official page. Its a hard fast 250g rule.
Also no deep research AI/manual search can see any reference to any exemptions granted to any manufacturer ever.

I suspect DJI are pulling a fast one here and the paid/free drone/influencers given them for review are doing some arse covering, possibly prompted by DJI.

If you have a +/-4g deviation in drone quality and you want C0, you need to make sure its 245.9g design target.

Issuing essential fake C0 stickers for drones that dont meet C0 could cause DJI a lot of trouble.

FWIW other countries i fly in have hard, strict limits as well (Indonesia where nobody except a local can fly >250g as no foreigner can register), Singapore where the procedure for a tourist becomes much more involved and time consuming etc.

Just to double check i got Google Deep Research to trawl and its confirmed nowhere is “tolerance” or a margin for error discussed when it comes to MTOM. Its a binary, specific maximum figure.

" (1) have an MTOM of less than 250 g, including payload;"

Also its MTOM, so includes SD card, ND filter and so on.

As to does it practically matter…It could do. If someone is doing anything dumb or suspicious and police seize it, as well as going through flight data they can, and likely will, weigh it. Insurance cover might be null and void as a clause if flying it outside the permitted restrictions etc.

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At a practical level, is anyone who challenges you going to be carrying around a set of lab calibrated scales.

Not knowing how Easa classification works I cant really comment. Do they perform all the tests themselves (weight, noise etc) or do they rely on the honesty of the manufactures that the drone meets the criteria.

We’ve already seen in car makers that this “believe us, we’re honest” approach does not work with diesel gate. Are we now witnessing the same kind of thing with DJI and weight gate?

Just had a look at the Mini 5 Pro at the DJI Hasselblad store in London. Looks like a nice bit of kit but I decided to hold my horses until/if I can get a good deal on one.

At a practical level, they dont need to have a set of scales.
If they have suspicion they can seize it and weigh in a lab along with obtaining flight data and so on.

“Believe us we’re honest” hasnt worked with cars (diesel) or aircraft (Boeing 737 max, 777x etc etc).

I wouldnt put it past DJI to submit samples of the under 250g batches for certification and then just stick C0 on every batch once passed.

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Don’t forget, unlike previous Mini models this new Mini 5 Pro doesn’t have 249g printed all over in it massive letters :see_no_evil_monkey:

Probably not, but they might have a list ;o)

If I have found the right document, MTOM appears to be defined in UK legislation (Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2019/947) as:

(22) ‘maximum take-off mass’ (‘MTOM’) means the maximum Unmanned Aircraft mass, including payload and fuel, as defined by the manufacturer or the builder, at which the Unmanned Aircraft can be operated;

CAP722 also implies I can rely on the manufacturer-defined MTOM if my legacy drone has one:

The Mini 5 Pro does have an MTOM defined as 249.9g (particularly if I read the MTOM statement):

So if I want to fly a Mini 5 Pro in the UK, can I not just rely on it having a 249.9g MTOM as long as I don’t add any non-qualified accessories to it?

For EASA, I think the class-marking legislation is Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2019/945 and, on a quick search, it does not seem to have any wording about mass variability but it does not matter, DJI seem confident that EASA have already certified the drone as C0 based on the MTOM so I presume, in the EU, as long as you only use the list of qualified accessories that DJI set out in the manual (which includes the ND filters and a MicroSD card), you’re fine.

I presume the Mini 5 Pro is missing from the EASA certified drones list just because it takes time to update the list not because DJI are pretending it is certified when it isn’t. If DJI hadn’t been open with EASA about the variability of the mass of the drone, I doubt they would be publicising the +/- 4g variance - it definitely wouldn’t be on their website and in the user manual.

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The mini 3 extended batteries work fine in the Mini 5 Pro.

Powered up fine.

As it is raining outside, not flown to test them for time etc.

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@NYanakiev remember that this is just a reseller and not DJI themselves.

Better to order elsewhere imho

Maybe at @LeicesterDrones with the Gold /Silver discount.

Or wait until Black Friday in a couple of months to see if a bigger discount happens

Until or if there are test cases..

I would take the position that the published manufacturers specifications for the 5 are as mentioned here. 249.9 grams.

I do recall some wording on the caa site. Something about unmodified uav’s and published specs being acceptable.

Your pasting might be what im thinking off. Ty btw :slight_smile:

I recall before they started firmware updates on the MP it was awesome no restrictions but obviously we thinking forwards were a good thing but in actual fact it was throttling the freedom and reverting to .700 was heaven and a pleasure to fly again.

Yea sgt @PingSpike nabbed me once on this and I make sure it will never happen again :scream::flushed_face::joy:

Loved it but it was a fuffing pain the gimble, I broke so many of the wee clip, I actually don’t mind the Mini 4 pro cover but I don’t use any gimble covers as the hardcase protects it anyway and less to think about.

Don’t hold your breath as in the 2 years very little price reduction would be worth wait to enjoy.

Well don’t think anyone’s listening :face_with_peeking_eye:

I’ve ordered my charger and spare SD cards

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It’s a thumbs up for the bag from me, finally a DJi bag with plenty of room :sweat_smile:

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