Flying at over 3,600 metres above ground level

A report from Lincolnshire Police:

"A man has been sentenced for air navigation offences, breaching legislation which is in place to keep military and commercial aircraft safe.

Thomas Ling, 34, of Main Road, Brothertoft, has been fined and his drone equipment will be destroyed after pleading guilty to four offences at Boston Magistrates Court on Wednesday 28 August.

Flying drones is an enjoyable pastime for thousands of people but when drones are flown outside of the legislation or in restricted areas it may cause a significant impact to the safety of aircraft, the crew, passengers and anyone on the ground.

A drone must be kept within visual line of sight to ensure it does not crash into a structure or cause a danger to aircraft, such as search and rescue aircraft or air ambulances, which may take off or land unexpectedly.

A height restriction of 400 feet is the maximum limit a drone is usually allowed to fly. Any drone flown higher risks flying into the airspace of crewed aircraft who generally fly above 500 feet, except for take off and landing.

The risks Ling posed by flying his drone so high were considered so serious that flights by the Royal Air Force, the Air Ambulance and the National Police Air Service had to be diverted to avoid flying in the area for a number of days. RAF Coningsby is located just six miles from where the drone was being flown.

An urgent investigation by Lincolnshire Police led to Ling being identified and his equipment - a first-person view drone and two radio-controlled aircraft - being seized. The investigation revealed that between the 1 March 24 and 18 June 24, Ling had flown his first-person view drone at heights of up to 12178 feet on 26 occasions in and around the area of Boston.

The four charges faced by Ling included:

:warning: 25 offences of flying without an operator licence ID

:warning: 25 offences of exceeding the max height of 400 feet

:warning: 26 offences of flying beyond visual line of sight

:warning: One offence of installing or using wireless telegraphy apparatus without a license granted by OFCOM

He was handed a fine, costs totalling ÂŁ1205 , and a destruction order was imposed for of all the equipment seized by police.

Kev Taylor, Chief Drone Pilot and Safety Manager, Lincolnshire Police, said: "Drones have so many great uses, but they need to be flown responsibly and legally. The regulations are there to ensure drones are operated safely without causing a risk to the public and airspace users.

"Ling’s drone was adapted so that it could be flown at such high altitudes often flying between 7000 and 12000 feet. Lincolnshire airspace is congested; we have multiple RAF bases and civilian airfields in our county, including the Red Arrows, the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, the Air Ambulance, private and commercial aircraft operating daily.

“Ling has shown a repeated and blatant disregard for the legislation and the safety of both the public and airspace users in Lincolnshire.”

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Source: https://www.lincs.police.uk/news/lincolnshire/news/2024/aug-2024/a-man-has-been-sentence-for-air-navigation-offences/

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Think he got away quite lightly considering how may offences he committed :man_shrugging:

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So on one flight he had an operator licence, but on all flights he went above 400 feet and beyond visual line.

Or has someone just made up a figure?

25 height
26 bvlos

… according to what you posted. :wink:

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and a criminal record. What a throbber!

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And yet you get prison for posting some “hurty words” on social media :roll_eyes::roll_eyes:
The law truly is an ass :wink::wink:

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Egging folks on to burn down a hotel full of families is hardly ‘hurty words’

But you’re right they could have made an example, but then agin we would probably all be joining him in the big house

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I’m curious - if a dji mini 4 wasn’t restricted to 120m, how high could it actually fly?

In the uk 500 metres DJI, unless it’s been hacked & the altitude limit removed then the sky’s the limit or signal rather.

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As Kirky said, but I wouldn’t want to be taking my 4 Pro anything past that as the wind speed will double in strength depending on the conditions as wind speed is officially measured just over 30 feet above sea level.

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Are you telling me you’ve flown your drone at 12,000+ ft ?

DJI say my Mavic Mini (and the previous Mini 2 SE) will take off at 4000m ASL, 13,320’, and presumably will fly at least 120m/400’ above that. I would guess that the flight up Everest, more than twice that and they were about 100’ clear of the summit, so 30,000’ ASL, was done with modified props to cope with the thinner air.

So, if there were no CAA height restrictions, and one wanted to do the arithmetic, one could work ot how high a drone would go in 15 minutes (half the battery life) at it’s fastest rate of ascent; one would have to start the descent at that point in order to have enough battery to land again.

Of course it is perfectly legal to fly at 12,000’ if there is ground you are standing on at 11,600’, or off the summit of Everest at 29,029’ up to 33,029’. Legal doesn’t necessarily mean advisable though, or even possible!

Or just disarm for a bit. How much battery you need for descend? A lot less than going up heh.

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How high for that badge?

No idea.

I have only gone to around 650 feet legally

All of which is quite a challenge around Boston where the starting altitude is probably 2 metres and the largest hill could be as much as another metre higher.

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Heaven forbid but I’ve dabbled in FCC and might have lost sight a on a rare occasion :wink:

Who hasn’t ?

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No specific height - just has to “look” really high.

I’d actually forgotten it existed. :laughing:

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