Matrice 30 BS30 Battery Station - Mobile charging Question

Hello friends I need your collective help and electrical engineering assistance please!

I have an M30T, it uses TB30 batteries. These are 5880mha capacity and run in pairs so you need to two to fly.

I have 8 of them, and a BS30 battery station.

On mains power they charge fast enough that you can fly indefinitely with only a quick landing to hotswap a pair of batteries. It’s pretty awesome!

My objective is to make this BS30 charging station mobile (think back of a pickup truck), away from mains AC power.

My question to you, is how big a portable power pack do I need?

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I think to charge 8 batteries once each I’d need 47wh of capacity? 5880 x 8?). So a 256wh battery AC unit would give me 5 full charges of 8 batteries? I think it has correct wattage power output to cope?

Does my math check out??

Thanks!

Answering my own post :rofl:

So my above math is wrong! I need to use volts to convert amp hours to watt hours!

“It is possible to convert watt-hours to amp-hours using the following formula:

Watt-hours = Amp-hours × Volts

To calculate amp-hours from watt-hours, we need to rearrange this equation to:

Amp-hours = Watt-hours / Volts

For the watt-hour to amp-hour conversion, you also need voltage (V).”

So 5880mAh = 5.88 Ah……. 5.88 x 26.7volts = 156 wh

So a 256 wh pack isn’t going to cut it.

Are you overthinking this, Glenn? :blush:

Why not just buy a small portable generator and have infinite power all day long without having to worry about a battery bank running out? :thinking:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-ig2200a-22kw-inverter-generator/

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:rofl:

I hope not! It needs to be a big battery charging the little battery so that while we’re mobile the next set are charging. I’m surveying a huge area non-stop from a moving platform. The battery pack will be charging in a trailer behind us!

Sounds ideal for a small portable generator then? :thinking:

I would think about leisure batteries with converter hooked upto your main battery, I done it under a bonnet as I had enough room and I fitted a isolator switch so if main battery died I could turn the switch so circuit was open to allow leisure batteries to jump main battery it saved me this a few times. Its cheaper then what your looking at and generator with fuel prices. I ran fridges monitors Xbox and others on the move and parked up.

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An enclosed, box trailer, not suitable for a combustion generator. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Ah right, sorry, missed that bit.

Nah I didn’t mention it.

But maybe you are onto something Rich! Maybe it’s much cheaper to go fossil fuel! I’ll investigate.

Ditto. I’ve done this many times. A lot cheaper than most off the shelf solutions.

1 x 110ah Leisure battery @ £110
1 x Split Charge Relay Kit (Durite are the best) @ £76
1 x 500/1000w Pure Sine Wave Inverter @ £50

£236 in total. Probably get it for less if you shop about.

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Thanks guys.

But I guess my question is, with that 110ah battery, how many recharges will I be able to put into my 8x TB30 batteries?

I’m not confident to do the math, and these are juicy big batteries I need to keep charged.

If I can calculate a setup that’ll recharge the whole set of 8 once or even twice that’ll give me 4-6 hours of flight time, which is what I need for a nights work.

110ah x 12v = 1.3kWh.

Best way to calculate the real consumption is to use a plug-in power meter whilst charging the batteries indoors. That way, you will see exactly how many watts a full charge consumes. Then just divide 1300w by that figure. That will tell you how many times you can charge the batteries on a single leisure battery charge.

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Based on your calc for the DJI battery consumption, 8 batteries would consume 1,248w. With Lead Acid batteries, you don’t want to discharge below 50% of the capacity, otherwise you will shorten the life of the battery considerably. So, you would need a battery that would provide at least double 1,248w. Therefore, you would need a battery with a minimum of 210Ah to safely provide a single charge for the 8 DJI batteries.

The challenge though is that anything over 130Ah tends to be 6v only. You would need 2 x 6v, 225Ah in series (for example). These can be sourced a lot cheaper if you don’t mind used. Golf buggy’s, forklift trucks … all have these batteries.

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12v 170Ah @ £100 each.

If you got 3 of these (connected in parallel) …

  • Total power would be 3 x 170Ah = 510Ah x 12v = 6,120Wh.
  • Usable power, 50%, would be 3,060Wh.
  • Or … 3 full charges of your 8 DJI batteries.

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