Max Altitude - don’t try this at home

I came across this a few weeks ago, taking a mini 5 to an altitude of 3+km and I believe it was from a t/o altitude of 800 mtrs. The video looks to be real and not cgi or AI and appears to be shot in Eastern Europe. I’ve no idea what the legal limit is at the filming location although I suspect what I saw was illegal; non-the-less both interesting and very impressive.

What, I’m now asking myself, is the max altitude of a Neo 2? Plenty of videos on YouTube but all click-bait with the drone maxing out at 120 mtrs, not what I’m looking for. I suspect true max altitude of the Neo 2 is limited by battery limitations and not physical capability of the drone but I can’t find anything on YouTube to tell me.

Has anybody out there had a similar, ‘I wonder’ and found the answer? I stress I’m not advocating breaking the law to find out, just curious. Hopefully I’ll be getting the Neo 2 when the 3 is launched and the price comes down.

Hi @Inca
Yes, the 120m (400feet) is the legal limit in the UK. From memory DJI UK0 class drones will be hard-locked at 120m whereas a DJI UK1 drone will allow you to alter the max altitude to what you want. This should only be used (for example) if you take off from the bottom of a high hill and you want to keep to 120meters above the ground even when you get to the top. If though you had a DJI UK0 drone and tried the same thing to let’s say a hill that was 119m above your take off point, you would only be able to fly 1 meter off the ground at the top.
The drones are Geo Zoned, so if you took the same drone to a different country that had a lower or higher altitude, the drone will update itself.

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Thanks @WoolySheep, happy with all of that and yes, my Mini 4 is hard set to 120 which I can never see being problem for me personally. I’m just curious (and we all know what that did to the cat) what an un-tethered Neo could do and remain very impressed with the capability of the Mini 5.

Same, very curious.

I suppose you could work out the theoretical limit of altitude your drone can manage. The maximum height asl is given in the manual; can’t be arsed looking it up now but I think it was 4,000m for my Lito 1 and my Neo. That’s asl not agl, and can be assumed to be an effective absolute (but Deej have flown drones over the summit of Everest, presumably with modified props to cope with the thin atmosphere up there) at least for normal consumer drones, imposed by prop performance/lack of lift in thin air. It would include all but the highest points of mainland Europe. It would presumably vary to an extent according to weather conditions, especially atmospheric pressure & wind speed. and probably temperature/humidity, on the day. Within that, you could work out how high your drone can be put from the maximum speed of vertical ascent in S mode, for a duration of half the battery life after which you’d need to start your descent. Trial and error on subsequent attempts would then possibly extend the height by better enabling you to assess how long you can continue to ascend based on the battery drain being reduced on the downward leg of the flight. It is, whatever it is, a long way up, and possibly limited by the range of your rc connectivity! If one were to want to actually attempt it, one would have to find a country with laws that would allow it; I could not even begin to advise you on that, and one would also have to be aware of aircraft occupying the same airspace, which could presumably be provided by FR24 or similar.

It should also be noted that there are places in the world where active and live conflict involving drones is ongoing, and such areas’ airspace will be being monitored and actively defended by jamming, missiles, drones, or fighter aircraft; you’d stand a very good chance of being shot out of the sky and your operator position being lethally targetted; not recommended! I’ll stay local and with 120m for the time being. But great fun as a theoretical armchair exercise…

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Only up to 500m

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To be honest even if you could take a drone to its maximum manufacturers limit, I don’t think I’d ever bother. can’t see the point really. :man_shrugging:

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the maximum ceiling for a mavic 2 pro and a mini 5 pro for that matter is 6000m ASL.

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Another reason to keep my original, un-modded Mavic Pro …

.. and that was from the ground. :exploding_head:

:zany_face:

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9044 mtrs, that’s 29000 ft or Mount Everest give-or-take. I’m not sure what impresses me the most, the height it achieved or the comms didn’t give out and from what I can gather it only returned because of battery power.

There was another vid I recall .. think it reached over 30k ft .. but that was achieved by killing the motors when it reached max height, letting it free-fall, and then restarting the motors at about 2k ft .. all to save batteries.

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It’s Almaty in Kazakhstan (near the border with China)

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Pretty sure I found the spot on the map, someone has uploaded a pano shot from VERY high up

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Don’t think I’ve ever flown even 30 meters from the ground just freestyling, so certainly haven’t had a reason to fly above the legal limit. But when I think about sprinting 100 meters, 120 doesn’t actually seem that high for a drone.
Feels like you could tap that out pretty quickly on some cliff surfing in Scotland.

-How does the DJI limit handle the nearest point to surface vs take off?-
This was answered here, and in another thread.

The limiting factor isn’t the height the drone will fly to and still respond to the rc, or even flight/battery duration, for most flyers it is the restraint of the 120m agl limit and the need to keep VLOS at that distance. Going over 120m agl risks onflict with manned aircraft, nobody wants to be responsible for an A320-shaped burn mark in the landscape, never mind the possible fine or even prison time associated with even an airprox! If you are somewhere you can do it legally (which would certainly not be anywhere in the UK, EU, US, Canada, Australia, NZ, Eastern Europe, or anywhere even vaguely anywhere near an active war zone) and there is no conflicting traffic (bear in mind that it is the traffic that decides if it is conflicting, not you), fill yer boots, but for most of us most of the time it is illegal, dangerous, and the chances of being brought to book (or even shot down in some places) are high!

It is a little different to flying beyond VLOS range within the 120m height limit, not that I would recommend doing such a thing for a second! That does not put you into conflict with other air traffic and the risk is only to your drone (particularly if you are out over water). You are much less likely to be reported or detected on radar/similar equipment, and I would go so far as to suggest that, so long as you can see the airspace in the immediate vicinity of your drone, you are probably not going to seriously bother anyone at up to a mile or even two out from your home point. But a mile or two upwards, that’s a different story! You’ll come up on all sorts of radars, and upset all sorts of traffic!

Let us say that, for example, and theoretically of course, I wanted to fly around an off-shore island which would need me to go about a 2km out from my Home Point to get the footage I want at a height of about 100m. It’s a risk, but it’s an informed risk: I’m fairly confident in my connectivity and can see the airspace around the drone, which for the sake of argument is a Mini 4K. I can’t see the drone at that range but I know where it is, and I can barely make out any birds below the size of a gull or an oystercatcher (the main threats) at that range assuming clear conditions. Of course, I can monitor the airspace closer to the drone with the onboard camera and sensors. So, I chance it! I have hurt nobody, but I have knowingly broken the rules, so I get the bus home looking a bit sheepish and ashamed of myself but with the footage. It it all goes wrong, I’m a big boy, I’ll put my hand up and take my punishment like a man.

Now, let’s compare that hypothetical scenario with a flight going up to 2km vertically, the size of a moderate Alp. I’m intruding on airspace I am not supposed to intrude on, I may well be endangering civilian or military aircraft, I am being a complete arsehole on any and every level, and deserve all I am probably going to get, which could very well be the confiscation of my drone, a hefty fine or worse, jail time if I’ve actually caused a crash, and I would deserve all of those things! The 120m agl height restriction is (rightly) more rigidly enforced than the VLOS distance restriction…

Hello Mr.TheJohnster - I’ve spotted and read your comment with great interest, would you kindly accompany me to the local station please.

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Recorded in Almaty, Kazakhstan. I googled the restaurant on the map at 3m35s.

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Hi @WazzaTee, it looks as though you’re quite new here :wave:t2:

Why not nip over to the Introductions category to say hello and tell us a bit about yourself :smiley:

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It’s the vertigo that’d get me. I’ll be honest, there have been times when I’ve felt a little woozy just looking at my drone 200ft up!

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Some big boys made me do it, ‘oneslt, guv…

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