National Trust / English Heritage

Yet no mention of court costs. Should I offer my passport up now? :roll_eyes::thinking::man_bowing:t3::person_raising_hand:t2::policewoman:

Forget court, take the fine

It requires a summary conviction, which by definition requires a judgement in a magistrate’s court.

If only this were true, everything would be much simpler all round, but we are governed by all the same laws and civil torts as everyone else. Trespass (civil and criminal), nuisance, privacy, data protection, prevention of terrorism, bye-laws, protection of wildlife - all these and more can lead to prosecution or civil suit if we get it wrong, just as they can to a photographer standing at ground level.

The good news is that prosecutions are incredibly rare and that if we are sensitive and sensible most of this should not really trouble us.

I think the trick here is to hand launch whilst mid-jump. There are no laws preventing a person from “taking off” under their own power, then when you release the drone it was launched from the airspace directly. Jump landing may be difficult though… bring plasters.

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:joy: :joy: :joy:

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Love it. Maybe standing on an air pillow would count too :joy::joy::joy:
Luckily I’ve yet to suffer from a blade blunder Watch me slice the end of my finger off, drop the drone & it slide down my shin chopping all the way :joy::joy::joy::joy:. :flushed:

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If you turned up in my front garden you would be breaking drone code as it’s surrounded by houses.

You would be breaking drone code just by taking off.

Unlike NT, English heritage land that has plenty of open spaces.

Unlike my nearest National Trust property

How does this apply to prohibition of flying in National Parks? (obviously not always easy to take off from outside)

The national parks are different beast altogether.

I believe that opinion is still divided, do you have a specific park in mind? The penalties are often less than they charge you to park for the day, and with such vast areas of land there must be a quiet part to fly in.

Rights of way and accessing land - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I’m thinking of Dartmoor, Lake District, Peak District and Snowdonia in the UK. Other NPs I’m thinking of a bunch of countries where they have a blanket ban in all NPs.

There’s no nationwide blanket ban on drones in National Parks in any part of the UK (that I know of); each Park may have different bye-laws in places, so best to search for the specific NP and either “bye laws” or “drone policy”.

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I know. So my question was are the bye laws in NPs are enforceable as the ones on NT/EH land?

And my second question was whether anyone had information about the countries that do have blanket NP bans.

As for Teide… Oops! :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

All bye-laws create criminal offenses and can be enforced by the police or by other officials empowered under the specific bye-laws. In practice, most are not enforced, because it’s impractical. I’ve flown both from and over NT land, and within a National Park, without anyone bothering me, for example.

Probably better asked in a different thread.

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The point is the bye laws aren’t applicable if you abide by ANO2016 etc.

Slighty more expensive than the 2 farthing fine for flying a drone or playing a gramophone in an UK national park

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Ermm, no. Bye laws are criminal law. They apply if you are in the local area that they cover. The ANO is not a “get out of jail card” that sweeps away the obligation to comply with every other law of the land. It’s just another thing you can be prosecuted for if you break it.

See the Drone Code, item 8, which makes that very clear:

https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/drone-code/where-you-can-fly

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For the circumstance under discussion, “They apply if you are in the local area that they cover”.

i.e. are not applicable.

Unless you are saying you can be prosecuted for overflying NT land even if you take off, land and control from public land? My understanding was otherwise.