National Trust / English Heritage

And insurance will put that right, never mind the amount of damage done to these historical sites by inept human beings that frequent them daily with no insurance

By the same token, insurance is required for the Big Meet part 2 and you’re literally just flying around a farmers field :wink::wink::wink:

At the end of the day, why does airspace and damage keep getting mentioned?
The charge is for TOAL on their site no? Which they’re entitled to do and call it an admin charge.
You can TOAL on public land and still damage things.

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Did you pay to show it

The rules they state on their website, will you be following them?

Wow, how many have the GVC certification ?

I do that and fly from my garden over the locks near the water tower in Chester.

Attempting - maybe I forgot to collect Make and model of drone.

They have not asked for that, I think as I applied non commercial.

Worse case is I lost £30 and my (lots of my) time and never engage with EH again.
Best case it is a cool meet up and maybe cheaper next time.

At least they have a way unlike National Trust we use drone footage but don’t allow others. That and Forestry commission who I tried and failed to get them to engage with me. Which the forestry commission use &£#@ drone photos on there @#£@ website and then say it a blanket ban.

NT and EH need to take a look at what is being done at sites like the Kelpies in Scotland and maybe have designated TOAL sites that maybe for a small fee ( they are always going on about needed to find funds for these site and their upkeep ) that will let you take off and fly / photograph in a safe location as long as the correct insurance etc are in place.

This will have two benefits I can see for pilots and NT/EH - safe take off location so that people are not pushing the limits of VOLS ( or not being able to see them at all ) so lower risk to all and a bit of extra change in the NT/ EH coffers. So many NT sites I have been to have loads of safe locations where a sub 250g drone would be well within the drone code and the pilot would have way better visibility of there drone in flight.

Good luck I hope it works out ok and you have a great time flying

It just grates me the rules and the cost

The rules are clear on their website ( unless I’ve missed something ?) There’s nothing there about non commercial work

I’ve been in detailed correspondence and phone calls. I may have missed something, but I think we are mainly aligned with what I am submitting and what they are expecting.

The next step is getting all the flyid, operator id and insurance and flight plan and seeing if it passes muster.

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Fair enough Brendan. Wasn’t trying to put you off, but they seem to be insisting on a lot of hoops to jump through, and then £30 to quite literally look, at insurance details. Seems a bit of a piss take to be honest. Mind you, the canal and river trust don’t like people flying over ( what they consider) their property and have similar practices re the flying/ filming over canals . :+1:

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I dont agree with EH. But I made no headway. Summary from EH below.

Although the CAA doesn’t require Flyer ID for drones less than 250g, it is our teams policy for all drones and pilots to provide Flyer IDs as this confirms to us they have read and are compliant with the latest CAA advice and guidance.

Anyone flying a drone without any PLi is taking a big risk .

We made it a requirement to protect everyone there and the property of our host.

From FB :roll_eyes:

A few weeks ago I was approached by a member of staff from English Heritage who rudely said I couldn’t fly my drone, I listened to her and I didn’t fly it…few weeks on and with clarification from the CAA I went and flown it and got some footage!

CAA email reply

Thank you for your email.

The UK Airspace is not owned by any such individual or organisation, it is a state asset and as such unless a specific flight restriction zone (FRZ) is in place, a remote pilot is free to operate their drone in the airspace above the English Heritage sites.

UK Regulation (EU) 2019/947 sets out, in UAS.OPEN.060 (2)(b), that the remote pilot shall maintain a thorough visual scan of the airspace surrounding the unmanned aircraft in order to avoid any risk of collision with any manned aircraft. The remote pilot shall discontinue the flight if the operation poses a risk to other aircraft, people, animals, environment or property.

There is nothing within Law, the Air Navigation Order 2016 (as amended) or the associated Implementing Regulation (EU)2019/947 that prevents it.

I hope this information is of help to you.

Link for reference

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Not on facebook. Cant read the post - where is the location ?

We should get that :point_up_2: printed out, so when Karen/Ken comes along saying you can’t fly here, it’s a polite way of saying Fuck Off :grin:

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Gisborough Priory

Fair point Chris, but at the big meet V2, you’re not being charged £30 for someone to look at your PL insurance :wink::wink:

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