I’m new to the forum - my wife brought me a drone for christmas, not a great one by the looks of it (Potensic D58) although it’s been fun and enough to get going with until I can make a more informed decision on a longer term solution that costs a chunk more that I can then buy guilt free by blaming her for getting me into it in the first place!
I have a ton of questions - but will start with this one…
My local council is preparing a new by-law to cover our beach area. In it, there is a drone section that states “No person shall without a valid license start, take-off, operate or land a drone
on any part of the seashore”
What sort of license do you think they are referencing? I have sat the test and have a flyer id and operator id - is this what they mean - or do you think it could be something far more nefarious - like a license you have to pay for, akin to fishing?
I think they are referring to the CAA operator ID and flyer ID. If so and as above regarding crown estate, it shows complete ignorance to the regulations that are already in place.
If not they are wankers and are still ignorant.
Our local council seashore bylaws contain this clause:
17. Nothing in or done under these byelaws shall―
(a) operate as a grant by or on behalf of the Crown as owner of the foreshore below high water mark of any estate or interest in or right over the foreshore or any part of it;*
(b) prejudice the rights and interests of the Crown;*
(c) prevent the exercise of any public rights; or*
(d) affect any right, power or privilege legally exercisable by any person in, over and in respect of the foreshore.*
I’m not a lawyer, but wouldn’t that mean if the Crown Estate had given specific permission to fly on their land, the Bylaws could not overide their ‘right’ to give such permission?
Don’t they actually have to have ‘justification’ to implement a byelaw. I’m a bit busy right now but if you google it there are whole bunch of things they have to warrant to introduce said byelaw. As a freedom of information request. Ask them for all the reported instances of whatever objection it is that they feel warrants this new byelaw. There should also be a public consultation period.
Its an update of a byelaw / set of byelaws that were introduced in the 1950’s and they are dusting them off. Unfortunately the public consultation closed on 28th December and I only found out about it as I sat the flyer ID test so followed up by checking byelaws where i live for drones. Its not ratified yet so I can still fly there for now. From what I can tell, crown owns the beach up to the high water mark and these restrictions cover the beach from that point up to the promenades. I will challenge my local counciller to push for the wording to be clarified as in, license meaning any relevant CAA requirements or some other money grabbing b/s the council are trying to angle for further down the line.
If you have done the demars test to get a flyers id and the operaters id you must stick the operaters id number on the drone and keep your flyers id on you that is your licene soto speak and you must fly with in the drone code as for the beach ask your local coucil if they own it or do the crown state own itso you can fly on the sea shore as you you have the two id,s just stay away from people
That will dictate what you can and can not do. But you MUST have a flyerID and an operator license (which you already have). Your council can post bylaws that preclude drones or preclude drones at a set time, they may ask you to apply for permission ahead of your flight. But there is NOTHING they can do to make you buy a “license” outside of the Flyer ID and Operator ID.
I’m assuming you have checked to see that you are not trying to fly in a restricted area?
Awesome thanks - yeah I have a wallet sized flyer ID and a bigger one in my drone case and the drone is labelled in 2 places with the operator ID to the required 3mm minimum text size
Yes, I have the drone assist app. There are loads of correctly restricted areas where I live as there is loads of Military and two airports - its why I am a little narked about a potential bylaw causing more issues as local space is limited already. My drone is 233g although I might get a bigger one next
