yeah - not against it per say - we could narrow/split the bands later on too. Aim is to promote participation - more categories means you are more likely to try to get on there.
We could keep the current one unchanged mind and just have an additional more granular one for FPV entries?
We could have the # 1 slot in the FPV leaderboard also listed in the camera drone leaderboard.
And vice versa, the # 1 camera drone could also be listed in the FPV leaderboard.
It might help to put things in to perspective (on both sides) 
Bump! Size / Battery seems most ordered and logical,
I just did 165kph with my 3” self build which I am super chuffed with, but current rules say only 1 self build in the current leaderboard - and my little thing will never catch the likes of @Cedric 
So. I’m all up for a 3” category. 
Are we considering the FPV leaderboard to all be self builds even if theyre mostly a kit? That would make all Avatas and DJI FPV camera drones then?
@UAVShipSpotter this was briefly covered a few posts up:
In summary, any DJI drones would remain on the “camera ship” leaderboard 
The current FPV leader board
| 1 | 162.79 | Selfbuild | @Cedric |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | 150.99 | Nazgul 5 v2 | @Howard78 |
| 3 | 113.9 | Custom FPV Wing | @Steviegeek |
| 4 | 80.79 | Flywoo Explorer LR 4 HD | @bmsleight |
| 5 | 54.8 | DJI F450 ‘Flamewheel’ | @Steviegeek |
| 6 | 46.6 | Chimera 4 Lr | @Howard78 |
Tagging @Steviegeek from another thread:
Confirmation on the things discussed in this thread from you, our @group-fpv members 
It’s your leaderboard, you all need to be happy with your rules / eligibility
@Cedric mentioned presenting some things on a poll for you all to decide.
These seem to be the 2 options from the last round of discussion above - I detail them below the poll. Let me know if you feel we want another option included in the poll?
Self build speed board classification proposal
Option 1
Quads (27 entries as per per prop size & battery voltage)
1.2" (65mm whoop) - 1S 2S
1.5" (75mm whoop) - 1S 2S
1.9" (85mm whoop) - 2S
2" - 2S 3S
2.5" - 3S 4S
3" - 3S 4S
3.5" - 4S 6S
4" - 4S 6S
5" - 4S 6S 8S
6" - 6S 8S
7" - 6S 8S
10" - 6S 8S
13" - 6S 8S 12S
Wings
Wing up to 880mm wingspan, running on up to 4S
Wing above 880mm wingspan, running on 4S
Wing above 880mm wingspan, running on 6S
Plane (having distinct wings, fuselage, tail) upto 1000mm wingspan, running on up to 4S
Plane (having distinct wings, fuselage, tail) above 1000mm wingspan, running on up to 6S
Option 2
Quads (12 entries entries as per per prop size & battery voltage)
under 2" - 1S 2S 3S
2" to under 4" - 3S 4S 6S
4" to under 6" - 4S 6S 8S
6" and over - 6S 8S 12S
Wings
Wing up to 880mm wingspan, running on up to 4S
Wing above 880mm wingspan, running on 4S
Wing above 880mm wingspan, running on 6S
Plane (having distinct wings, fuselage, tail) up to 1000mm wingspan, running on up to 4S
Plane (having distinct wings, fuselage, tail) above 1000mm wingspan, running on up to 6S
Interesting. I’d say better just to have frame size.
The battery is down to choice and if you want to be faster then build something to carry a 6s.
We should definitely have something to include a minimum number of satellites locked.
I think @Steviegeek suggested 8 or 10 which covers the problem of inaccurate readings and a lack of air data.
Cannot update the poll - so here are the 2 added options as suggested
Option 3
as Option 1 but without battery size consideration
12 quads entries and 3 wings entries
Option 4
as Option 2 but without battery size consideration
4 quads entries and 3 wings entries
You guys are fucking mental. Looking forward to seeing the results, and of course all of the crash videos, thems the best parts
They are not crashes. They are uncontrolled, unplanned landings in an aggressive manner.
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@GunjaFPV
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Hi guys - you have previously shown an interest in a ‘self build speed leaderboard’ - we have 4 options detailed above with corresponding poll entries (in 2 posts) - care to vote for your format of choice? Or forever be silent 
Where would my new Pavo20 pro 2.2" fit in.
Lost the 5" in a fly to the moon 
Sorry to hear that about your 5"…
For Option.1 & 3 - I would classify a 2.2" drone as in the 2.5" category but open to suggestions.
For Option 2 & 4 - it would fit into the ‘from 2" to under 4"’
I have voted! Thanks for the efforts!
Where as my uncontrolled aggressive landings are definitely crashes, just ask DJI how many CareRefresh claims I’ve made 
What we using as evidence?
Video of full flight ?
Or just a screenshot with at least 6 sats?
How do I measure speed of whoop with no GPS?
consensus discussed earlier in the thread points to video w osd (till landing showing summary) as well as a min of 8 sats
not sure this has been fleshed out yet… Maybe a simple RaceGOW type track we can use to time participants? (leaving it to the whoops specialists ) - @GunjaFPV @Baconfeatures @Rookery
To much of a Minefield for my input
