Amateur drone pilot came within seconds of causing 'catastrophic' crash above Manchester

An amateur drone pilot who almost caused a “catastrophic” crash with a police helicopter has been spared a prison sentence.

Nathan Flint, 19, flew his DJI Air 3 drone four times higher than the 400ft legal limit in Middleton, and came within five seconds of crashing into a police helicopter with three people on board.

It was only because the helicopter’s ex-military pilot’s spotted the drone and banked to the right that a crash was avoided.

The pilot spotted the lights flying below the helicopter “in the 11 o’clock position” and immediately “took evasive action”, prosecutor Aubrey Sampson told Manchester’s Minshull Street Court.

He went on to say: “[The pilot] is of the view taking immediate evasive action was necessary as the drone could have made contact with the aircraft within 4.8 seconds.”

The captain of the police helicopter, Peter Delaney, told police: “In all my years as a helicopter pilot and before during my military service I have never had to take such evasive action because of a drone. It posed a huge risk to my aircraft… It could have caused catastrophic results.”

One of the helicopters police passengers saw the drone between 100 and 200ft below the chopper and about 1,600ft from the ground, the court heard.

The drone then descended into the back garden of Flint’s home in Middleton and the second police passenger used “mapping technology” to pinpoint Flint’s address on Talkin Drive. When the helicopter returned to Manchester City Airport, a report of the ‘near miss’ was filed..The next day police visited Flint’s home and arrested him. In his police interview, he admitted “straight away” he was the pilot of the drone, adding that he was “very excited” as he had purchased the drone with his birthday money, at the cost of £1,200.

He told the officers he had merely wanted to “enjoy” the drone and knew the legal altitude limit for the aircraft was 400ft. He admitted it was “well above the legal altitude limit”.

Captain Peter Delaney branded the drone pilot “dangerous and reckless”.

Judge Jenny Lester-Ashworth said the defendant’s “culpability is significantly reduced by virtue” of his autism, and so jail was ‘not necessary’.

The judge added: “You took ownership of the drone following a birthday and took the opportunity to fly that drone and fly it in a way that was dangerous.”
Judge Lester-Ashworth said she ‘noted’ that the defendant had since sold the drone, adding: "I doubt you have any intention of buying another one.

"If you do you must make sure you check all the requirements before you do something like this again. This offence is viewed as serious which is why you are in the crown court and not the magistrates’ court.

“This is an offence which does cross the custody threshold.”

The judge went on, however, that if the defendant did not have special needs in the form of autism he “would be going to prison”.

She added: “I’m not going to send you to prison today because of those needs.”
The judge noted the defendant was still 19, had no previous convictions, had admitted his crimes and had “demonstrated remorse”.

She said: “You did not intend to put others at risk and you were ignorant to the risk you were posing.”
The judge added: “It’s clearly a very dangerous offence and the consequences could have been catastrophic.”
Flint, who is on benefits, was handed a community order and a three-month electronically-monitored curfew which requires him to be at home between 7pm and 8am.

He was also ordered to pay £150 towards prosecution costs after he admitted recklessly endangering an aircraft, failing to comply with the maximum operating height, failing to display a registration, contravening registration requirements and failing to have appropriate competence for the flight.


Source: https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2025-03-21/drone-pilot-came-within-seconds-of-causing-catastrophic-helicopter-crash

Source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/excitedly-playing-birthday-toy-came-31235001

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That looks like he sold the drone as soon as he landed it and avoided having it confiscated :thinking: Or I reckon police would have taken it the next day when he was arrested.

And if spotted 1-200 feet below the helicopter was the drone ascending or was the helicopter descending, or both? Not saying hes not in the wrong for flying 1600 feet but its just the wording…

Shit journalism..

It’s like this comment :

It would have been a member of the crew as in a Tactical Flight Officer.

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If you’re not from the Manchester area, the MEN does not have a great reputation for factual and accurate journalism.

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According to the MEN, Nathan who had learning difficulties has just bought the Air3 with birthday money which seems quite a lot and did he have the capability to mod the Air 3 to go to 1600ft. Probably a lot more to this story.

It didn’t need moding as DJI drones can fly to 500m, which is the max setting in the fly app

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Fair point, I still think there is more to this story though !

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Undoubtedly more to the story, the chances of a TFO spotting a drone beneath them from inside the helicopter is extremely unlikely. The media reports around these things often have gaps filled with made up information or inaccurate information. More likely the drone appeared on radar and the crew were alerted, then potentially spotted it at that point. DJI’s transmit an ID meaning the details of the registered owner are available straight away, so the address of the flyer will have been known within minutes.

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If it’s registered :man_shrugging:

That’s not how DJI’s proprietary DroneID system works :blush:

And don’t forget, police helicopters aren’t equipped with DJI AeroScope receivers.

There usually is whenever a drone is in the news :confused:

I was going to say, does any local rag? But we could probably say that about any mainstream news outlet these days :grin:

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Just made up BS mostly to fill out the ads and pop ups

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Did they even need that? The article did state :

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My point is that the details of the operator can become known very quickly (as long as registered as chris said) so everything else from that point isn’t really relevant. Keeping an eyeball on a descending drone from a helicopter whilst circling and swapping obs from side to side asit moves down into a garden would again be nigh on impossible for most small unmarked DJI drones - but they wouldn’t need that as the drone will have appeared on ATC radar and details picked up / passed to the control room who would then speak directly with the crew etc etc.

I never knew how efficient the DJI ID system was until I saw it with my own eyes recently - incident with a drone reported and the details are available almost instantly. The reason the door would have been knocked on the next day is to get the case documented and a plan in place first, arrests are the final action and occur only when evidence is compiled and ready for interview.

This is a good example of when you would get a door knock as opposed to not getting one. 4 times the height limit and an encounter with an aircraft - thats pretty bad. Skirting around the edge of an FRZ or hitting 130 feet for a few seconds, not so interesting.

I don’t know where you get your information from :slight_smile:

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I’d slightly disagree on one small technical point. An arrest can be used in order to a) gain access to the premises in order to make an arrest if the occupant(s) wouldn’t admit officers voluntarily, then b) to secure the evidence (ie drone and controller) if again they were not produced voluntarily. Interview plans can come later. The excerpt specifically says he was arrested in any case.

I’m quite interested in other aspects of this matter, eg visibility of drones on ATC radar, and the DJI DroneID system that was mentioned - I’m going looking for discussions on these matters here, but if anyone can point me at a decent read, that would very very helpful.

Pull up a chair :smiley:

Anatomy of DJI Drone ID Implementation (re: AeroScope)

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You seem to presuming a lot… How do you know this actually happened, where you present in court to listen to all the evidence from professional witnesses called and those statements supplied from those not present.

Speculating on events based on previous experience, not this actual case. I know no more than you about that case.

Thanks for the answer. I guessed as much. :+1:

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Reads like usual scaremongering corporate tactics… Something something “panic” something something “fear” something something “danger” something something “prison”

I switch off when i read stuff written like this. People have enough to worry about without being constantly bombarded with fear mongering journalists, incompetent politicians and spineless legislators…

Was he in the wrong? Maybe, none of us will ever know the real truth. As a newer pilot to the scene one thing I can say is that the CAA legislation reads like treacle with small lumps of coffee mixed in and I’d not be surprised by anyone who says it gave them a huge headache when trying to find out if they are G2G. Especially for anyone who is new to airspace terminology.

Interesting how the post doesn’t mention anything about A1 & A3 certs… Did i just waste £12 on a useless Cert that nobody checks for?

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