Apps and utilities to view drones that broadcast Drone ID and Remote ID data

Gham · 30 August 2022 21:24

@PingSpike so the android revolution has started. What device is taking your fancy?

PingSpike · 31 August 2022 16:13

You can leave the drone on the ground but the rotors definitely need to be spinning for the remote id to be broadcasting.

If you start the rotors the display in the Fly app will change to “in flight”, even though it’s still on the ground. That’s enough to get your beacon emitting

I’ll split this thread out later, we’ve got two clearly different things going on in here.

PingSpike · 3 September 2022 12:52

I don’t fully understand how or why as I’ve not researched it enough, but it’s a safe bet this will be why your Mini 2 isn’t showing up @Sparkyws

github.com

ping-spike/receiver-android/blob/master/transmitter-devices.md#drones

# Transmitter Devices

This page provides a list of transmitter devices that are capable of broadcasting Direct Remote ID signals according to the ASD-STAN prEN4709-02 (EU version) and ASTM F3411 (US version) standards.

For more information about Remote ID and links to additional resources, please see the [opendroneid-core-c project](https://github.com/opendroneid/opendroneid-core-c#opendroneid-core-c).

A [list of smart phones](supported-smartphones.md) that have been tested to receive Remote ID signals is available and information about various open source receiver implementations is available [here](https://github.com/opendroneid/opendroneid-core-c#receiver-examples).

This list is work in progress and can contain wrong or misleading data.
If you want any data added, removed, corrected etc., please raise an issue or provide a pull request with the changes.

The intention of this page is not to promote or exclude any specific commercial or non-commercial devices or implementations.
It is merely meant as a helpful source of information for people interested in Remote ID.
If you have information about devices not on the list, input and updates are very welcome.

The list is divided into three sections: drones, add-on devices and other implementations.

## Drones

The rules in the US and EU are not yet mandating that drones must broadcast Remote ID signals.

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tl;dr version:

Device	Link	Notes
DJI Mavic 3	DJI Mavic 3 - Imaging Above Everything - DJI	Range < 500 meters via smartphone
DJI Mini 3 Pro	DJI Mini 3 Pro - Fly Mini, Create Big - DJI	Range < 500 meters via smartphone
Parrot Anafi	Parrot ANAFI \| Professional Drone Camera 4K HDR	FW version >= 1.8.0 required

No Mini 2

Sparkyws · 3 September 2022 14:52

Are we getting the Drone Id and DJI Aeroscope mixed up?

DJI AeroScope:

How does it work?

DJI AeroScope is endorsed by the UK’s Centre for the Protection of National Infrastructure.

It is a passive radio frequency (RF) system that tracks real-time telemetry data from all DJI drones (around 80% of the market) within its range.

Generate detailed flight logs, including statistical reports and heat maps, for analysis.

PingSpike · 3 September 2022 15:25

Entirely possible these days man

Sparkyws · 4 September 2022 19:21

So @speatuk could test it out on his Mini 3 and the Mavic 3

mynameisjoe · 8 September 2022 09:40

OpenDroneID is not picking up the drone while in flight? I downloaded and installed from the above link, must be missing something. Time for some more reading. And no I haven’t applied the hack yet

Sparkyws · 8 September 2022 10:41

It does not work, the DJI’s don’t use Droneid what they use is Aeroscope and that is what you are disabling when apply the exploit

PingSpike · 8 September 2022 11:17

The drone I’d app does work, but not with the Mini 2.

The Mini 3 and Mavic 3 work, there’s a link knocking about somewhere.

Sparkyws · 8 September 2022 12:38

They only use WiFi Beacon and some phones don’t have that, and we don’t know the range of detection using a phone

Also, the older DJIs and the newer Mini’s 1 and 2 use Aeroscope but we don’t know the difference between the 2 and if the exploit ciajeepdoors disables both

On my Mini 2, it says it disabled Droneid but you have posted above that it doesn’t have Droneid but it can be tracked with Aeroscope from what I can gather

Sparkyws · 14 September 2022 11:53

Found this but not tried it yet

says it only a simulation

PingSpike · 14 September 2022 12:11

If you’re coming on Sunday Wayne I’ll bring my drone id phone along

Sparkyws · 14 September 2022 22:21

What phone did you get?

PingSpike · 15 September 2022 05:24

I bought a busted up Huawei Mate 20 Pro from eBay in the end as this model seems to have the best detection/radio/comms support.

chrisf · 15 September 2022 07:58

Is it worthwhile breaking the DroneID app into a separate thread where people can post which phones theyve tested on?

I’ve tried it on 5 phones with no luck on any

PingSpike · 15 September 2022 09:08

Yes, agreed, will sort later today.

PingSpike · 15 September 2022 12:22

This PoC app from DJI back in November 2019 is / was also related:

PingSpike · 15 September 2022 12:26

If you can add to the list of devices that have the correct hardware and are compatible with the app then please contribute here.

A list of devices that are not compatible isn’t of much use (as it’ll be a mammoth list)

Sparkyws · 15 September 2022 12:34

github.com

opendroneid/receiver-android/blob/master/supported-smartphones.md

## Introduction

This document contains a list of compatible smartphones that have been tested for receiving the Broadcast Remote ID signals from an Unmanned Aircraft (UA) or add-on device following the European and US standards.

It is part of the documentation for the example Android Remote ID receiver application available [here](https://github.com/opendroneid/receiver-android).

General information about Remote ID can be found [here](https://github.com/opendroneid/opendroneid-core-c#opendroneid-core-c) and a list of Remote ID transmitter devices [here](transmitter-devices.md).

The current specification of both the ASD-STAN prEN4709-02 (EU version) and the ASTM F3411-19 (US version) standards rely on wireless protocols in the unlicensed spectrum to broadcast the desired identification and telemetry data from UAs to ground observers.
Particularly, they define transport methods over Bluetooth 4 Legacy Advertising, Bluetooth 5 Long Range (Advertising Extensions over Coded PHY S8), Wi-Fi Beacon and Wi-Fi Neighbor Awareness Network (NAN).
The main reason for choosing these wireless technologies is that they meet the requirement of being supported on ordinary mobile devices.

Neither of the above standards cover the receiver side of the Broadcast Remote ID.
This document provides a quick overview of the compatibility of community tested smartphones with the specified Broadcast Remote ID technologies.

The current stage of the prEN4709-02 (per January 2021) is a finished draft at CEN Enquiry, and the final version will be published in the upcoming months.
To obtain a copy of the ASTM Remote ID standard, please visit this [link](https://www.astm.org/Standards/F3411.htm).

**Disclaimer:** The list of tested devices is not exhaustive and comes without any guarantees.
It might contain some errors and misleading information.

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The only devices that seem to receive all of the beacon data are

chrisf · 15 September 2022 14:20

Well, none of the devices i have access to work.

Xiaomi Mi11
Google Pixel 5
Samsung Galaxy A12
Huawei Honor 9
Oppo Reno Zoom

This is despite at least a couple of devices showing all 4 of the requirements in the OpenDroneID app shown as supported.