Drone privacy paranoia and the real snooping, paradox

Same here, unless it’s something serious I decline or say they don’t work,
Reason I don’t want to become a target if I can help it as I’m sure as hell depending on who & what could would be the case with offender( offenders) that is what would happen, but many others around me have cctv it’s up to them if they want to sleep with one eye open !

I have no security cameras and I stay out in the stix.
Why do I not have/want them? I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

I put mine up a few years ago after a spate of vandalism whereby both my car and one of my neighbours kept getting windscreen wipers bent. ( four occasions) Since putting them up, no incidences have occurred. It records 24/7 and has infrared at night time ( although the bushes out front look lit up like a Christmas tree under the infrared) I hardly ever have to replay to capture images/ video. Last time I had to was about 9 months ago when one of my younger neighbours was apparently being stalked by someone. Police were involved and asked for any video evidence. I also have an app on my phone so I can check the cameras when away from home.
Only problem I have with it is bloody spiders building webs in front of the camera :joy::joy:

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Try this John, works for me on my CCTV cameras. Each treatment lasts about 6 weeks. It’s actually the IR lights on the cameras that attract the little buggers. :wink:

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Well, this has amazed me. Last night a neighbour had his motorbike stolen. I checked my cctv and saw two characters wheeling it along the road. Even though it was dark I could see they didn’t go very far with it. On a whim, I sent my drone up and found it, shoved down an alleyway ( probably so they can come back later for it) Police had been informed by another neighbour, so I’ve updated the police that we have found it and where it is. Just waiting now and watching my cctv for them turning up.
Can’t believe how useful the drone is. :+1::+1:

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Good on you mate.

This sticker/statement is intended to be displayed if your car is being used for commercial/business purposes; eg a taxi or private hire vehicle that has an internal camera, or a bus that has both internal and external cameras. It’s also considered good practice to inform passengers if the audio is on.

The domestic purposes exemption for GDPR says this:

Domestic purposes – personal data processed in the course of a purely personal or household activity, with no connection to a professional or commercial activity, is outside the UK GDPR’s scope. This means that if you only use personal data for such things as writing to friends and family or taking pictures for your own enjoyment, you are not subject to the UK GDPR.

There is a comment in another section that GDPR isn’t there to control the activities of hobbyists.

It also says this - for instance if your video records an offence that is then dealt with by the Police.

Law enforcement – the processing of personal data by competent authorities for law enforcement purposes is outside the UK GDPR’s scope (e.g. the Police investigating a crime). Instead, this type of processing is subject to the rules in Part 3 of the DPA 2018.

If you personally are not sure if you are exempt: “Exemptions should not routinely be relied upon or applied in a blanket fashion. You must consider each exemption on a case-by-case basis.” There are a lot of FAQs and examples on the ICO website to look at.

Source: A guide to the data protection exemptions | ICO

You may see various opinions if you Google the subject. CCTV is a slightly different topic, again, plenty of guidance on the ICO website.

MartG - apologies, I was trying to edit this post, as I’ve made a couple of assumptions, but I have locked it solid, and can’t change what I have put for 23 hours. Sorry.

I appreciate Lancs Police state on their dashcam submission portal that the domestic exemption does not apply, and quote Fairhurst vs Woodford; the case stated is very little to do with dashcams, and involved a neighbour dispute, inappropriate use of CCTV between residential properties, and also harrassment. It is also a County Court judgement, so the least authoritative of judgements.

I currently can’t find any other Operation SNAP portals that make any such claim that you would be outside the domestic exemption, or who refer to the case stated.

This GDPR thing,How do these Frauditors get away with publishing their videos on YouTube? It clearly states that GDPR doesn’t cover domestic video/ image capture, but these Frauditors clearly ain’t doing this as a hobby are they ?

That’s the other issue Jocky… (had to Google ‘frauditors’ as I am getting to be an old codger) and I completely agree.

Even a monetised drone YT channel steps into the realm of GDPR, and only having dipped my toe into these murky waters, if you did things properly and legally, it looks like a lot of work.

Apparently they claim it’s journalistic public interest . https://ico.org.uk/media/for-organisations/documents/4025760/data-protection-and-journalism-code-202307.pdf

It’s pretty tenuous imo with a low burden of proof on the auditor. It’s more likely PSBO’s will be the weapon of choice in dealing with them

There is no expectation of privacy in a public place.

You will often see on their videos blurred out faces of (often) security who have raised issues with YT around being filmed inside their place of work (that’s a no no).

However out in a public place if you approach the camera to engage, you are fair game.

Well I thought best to check with the Information Commissioner’s Office about the domestic exemption. I’ve just finished speaking to one of their staff.

As their online guidance states, if your dashcam is in your own personal vehicle, and isn’t used for business purposes, your dashcam falls under the domestic exemption. No GDPR requirements, no stickers, etc. I will be contacting Lancs Police shortly to query why they have posted apparently misleading advice on their website.

With regard to drone footage - it’s the same; unless you are taking footage or stills for professional or business purposes then any personal data you capture is not covered by the GDPR.

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