Flywoo explorer setup

The options are:

ACCESS, which is FrSky’s newer protocol.
ACCST, this supported the D8 and D16 (the XM+ is a ACCST D16 receiver). However, because the D8 protocol did not conform to the LBT standard FrSky stopped providing it with their transmitters post 2015.

Based on this I’m leaning more to the fact that the transmitter Chris has is using the LBT standard, as there’s no D8 option, and the receiver he’s trying to bind to is non-LBT.

I guess that’s quite likely if he got the transmitter from over here (HobbyRC) and the quad from elsewhere - direct from Flywoo maybe?

So best case scenario is maybe just flash the latest LBT firmware on the RX?

And people moan that ELRS is complex. Glad never got into RC with these older link technologies :slight_smile:

Hi mate,

So you think my transmitter is not looking like it’s compatible with my quad I bought? Dam, wish I had done more research into this hobby before buying my stuff! I will speak with hobbyrc and see if they can shed any light on if its likely to be compatible with my quad.

Yes I did purchase the quad from flywoo direct.

So what would be my easiest fix for this guy’s? If there is one…

Or do I just buy a new transmitter?

Thanks

This :point_up:t2: Looks like you will need to flash the correct firmware onto your XM+ receiver

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As @SirGunner has quoted from @Nidge, the cheapest thing to try would be to flash the receiver with firmware that’s more likely to be compatible with your transmitter. This should be a 2.x LBT version. You can get the latest version from here: https://www.frsky-rc.com/xm-plus-mini-sbus-non-telemetry-full-range/

It’s a ZIP file, in there is a readme.txt that tells you what everything is. Looking at that, and if Nidge’s suspicions are correct, I think you’ll be needing this one (the one I have selected).
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The flashing process is sort of covered in the video SirGunner first posted, but it will require you to

  1. Disconnect (desolder) the RX from the quad
  2. Connect the RX to the Smart Port on the transmitter with a cable you will possibly have to cobble together for yourself
  3. You then copy the XM+_ACCST_2.1.2_LBT.frk file onto an SD card that you insert into the transmitter and then go to Tools\SDCard, select the file and the “flash s.port” option to update the RX
  4. Once flashing is complete you will have to disconnect it from the transmitter and reconnect it to the quad
  5. You can now give the binding procedure another attempt.

Believe it or not, this is probably the least number of steps (and the cheapest option) that has a chance of getting you flying.

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:laughing: Everyone here thought that

As others have said its definitely a steep learning curve lol but if it wasnt for the guys on here advising and helping I never would have got in the air. When I first started taking an interest and reading peoples posts it was like deciphering hieroglyphics :laughing:
But try not to be put off, it will get easier as you pick things up and in my opinion its a very satisfying and rewarding hobby (if a little frustrating at times) :rofl:
Everyone here will always try to help and point you in the right direction if you have questions :+1:t2:

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mainly due to stock levels lol

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Thank you @Nidge and @earwig both for you detailed explanations it’s very helpful. I feel I have a rough understanding now of the flash procedure and it doesn’t sound to bad I feel I could try, but I wouldn’t want to start messing with the quad and then fail and have wasted my money that’s the only issue. Perhaps I’ll have to wait and see if I can meet someone local to help me. Or take things really slow and watch alot of videos on it. As for my soldering skills, I have done it in the past and I’m sure I could manage it after few attempts I’d just be worried to do something wrong or irreparable.

All this said, so you guys are saying that this is an easier option that just getting a new transmitter which is likely to be compatible? Or is that a guessing game so to speak?

As @SirGunner said, these things are very much like hieroglyphics so sorry if I ask silly questions I appreciate all of your patience. This is a very helpful community and so glad I have you guys to help me through it!

Many thanks

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To be fair, as you may be starting to guess, with this hobby there’s always an element of fannying around to get things working. It becomes less daunting with experience. 12 months ago I was in exactly the same position as you - it took a month to get my first “bind and fly” (:rofl:) in the air.

So, no, different gear isn’t necessarily going to be any easier, given your current position. There’s nothing wrong with what you have. Despite a number of us saying you should get different stuff. :laughing:

It would be worth getting a practice board to play with. I’d done soldering before, but nothing so fine as what is required for FPV. A decent iron and a flux pen can be a huge help.

Finally, I am not local to you but our head office is in MK and I am supposed to go down every once in a while. I’m due a trip soon, so if you’re still struggling perhaps we can sort something out. It’ll be a Tuesday.

No such thing in this hobby pal :ok_hand:t2: ask as many questions as you like. Its the best way to learn. we’ve all been there :+1:t2:

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Ok, I will by try and see if I can get to bind a few more times first trying different ways, if that fails still, I will have to look into buying stuff for soldering and practice as well before hand. Sounds like I’m in it for the long haul now, I must learn to do these things like you say if I want to fly so might as well start trying to learn.

Cheers guys for all your help and advice.

I’ll keep you posted.

@Earwig yes please If I still can’t get it sorted would really appreciate meeting someone who knows what their doing if they think they can help, I’m happy to speak to you and get everything needed ready for when you come if you just let me know. I understand these things aren’t straight forward though and may not be as simple as someone coming and quickly doing but any better knowledge and experience then mine has got to be more advantageous.

Cheers

By the way, did you notice this thread? :wink:

https://greyarro.ws/t/looking-for-people-around-milton-keynes/49398/8

Do you know what, with all our discussion here and work and other life goings on I haven’t even had much of a chance look at other discussions on here to be honest. But I have now so thank you and I have also posted the question there if anyone is local and fancied helping me get set up. As I say I’ll have another few attempts at binding tonight then let you know how I get on.

Cheers mate

Hi guys hope your all doing ok, I have spoke to the guy at hobbyrc and he says its likely it could be a firmware issue as he says my radio will be accst V2 EU/LBT and my flywoo is likely to be FCC on either or the other accst versions… I think this is correct.

He also said that if I can get my receiver out/disconnected from the drone then I could send it to him and he can reflash for me with the correct firmware. However he did say this would be easy in theory if the wires aren’t soldered but typically nine are soldered. So my next question is, I have also found a guy who does mobile repairs and has a soldering station, he says he able to possibly solder for me but is it likely he could desolder my receiver from my starch so that I can send it to hobbyrc to get reflashed and then when I get it back I can get the mobile repair guy to solder it back together? And hopefully then I should have more success binding.

Does all of the above sound correct and what I need to do and do you think it will be possibly most importantly?

Pictures below show the solder points for my receiver.

Look forward to your opinions. Cheers

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My honest opinion is that if you stick with fpv quads you will have to learn soldering anyway. Desoldering wires is one of the easier things to do (take photos so you know which wire goes where). My suggestion would be to buy a soldering iron with stand, solder (not the lead free crap) and a flux pen. Desolder the 3 wires to your receiver and send it in to HobbyRC to be reflashed. Get yourself a soldering practice board and while your receiver is away being flashed practice soldering on the practice board. By the time you get your receiver back from HobbyRC you should be able to solder back on your receiver ready to bind.
I have an unused practice board somewhere that I can send you if you like? Ive probably got some TBS solder I can send you too which means you would only need to get a soldering iron with stand and a flux pen.

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Thanks for your reply @SirGunner i definitely will be getting myself soldering gear so thank you for your offer but like you say I will need to learn and buy these bits so I don’t mind buying those bits thank you for the list of what I will be needing. I mean if you have things spare and it saves it going to waste your end and your happy to post it to me I would appreciate that for sure!

Other than that thank you for your help once again, now you guys have explained everything and I have spent the last week trying to get my head around its all starting to seem a little easier and doable. Well thanks to hobbyrc of course, otherwise I would of had to spend more time learning how to reflash firmware as well. Which I guess wouldn’t do any harm in learning for future but for the sake of getting flying asap It quicker to use him as he knows what hes doing and was kind enough to offer to do that for me.

So I will go away and purchase the soldering bits I need, if you don’t mind sending me what you have I’ll look to get the other bits your say I’ll need then and on Monday I will get the mobile repair guy to probably help me desolder and I’ll watch to see how he does it. Then after its reflashed and I have learnt I should feel more confident in soldering back myself.

I’ll let you know how it goes. And let me know where I can send you my postal details.

Cheers mate

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Absolutely, sounds like a result. And a good way forward for you. :+1:

As usual, JB has an extremely detailed video on soldering. As long as you can put up with him saying “sod her” instead of solder. :laughing:

It’s long, but probably worth watching all of it for a good background of the tools and process.

PS: I know it’s all in heat shrink, but the best option for disconnecting your receiver is probably to desolder the wires at the receiver end (top picture), rather than the flight controller.

Wouldnt it be easier to flash the TX radio to the same firmware as the Flywoo

No soldering, no sending off and the added bonus you are in FCC mode :wink:

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