Gusts gusts gusts - What maximum wind gust speed do you consider safe for flying?

Hello, fellow pilots!

What maximum wind gust speed (in mph) do you consider safe for flying? I’ve been using UAV Forecast with my DJI Air 3S and set the maximum gust threshold to 24 mph (slightly higher than the app default of 22). Even so, I’m finding that most days in a week are still marked as unflyable due to gusts exceeding that limit.

What do you consider a good maximum gust limit for the DJI Air 3S for normal, enjoyable flights? I’m not intending to push limits, just looking for a realistic everyday guideline.

I know that the DJI Air 3S specification states the maximum wind resistance as 26.8 mph. However, it says nothing about gusts per se, which behave slightly differently.

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If anyone has an opinion, I also wonder about relative humidity (air moisture causing condensation risk) and whether you draw a line at any number (in %).

tbh watch byoutube videos and see DC RAINMAKER he does extreme wind test etc :slight_smile:

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Thanks! I’ve seen a couple from some people, but these are quite specific, purposeful experiments done with little flying and for a short time. I am mostly wondering about more “real use” flying, when I might do upwards of 30 min at a time, across a varying terrain, altitudes and conditions. A realistic everyday guideline, rather than an extreme upper limit.

I hope that makes sense. :slight_smile:

Think the reason for it being a no go to fly of late would be the high magnetic storm thing - the KP number - and that it’s also been quite wet ( well around here at the moment)

The Air 3s can take a lot more grunt than whats in the manual. Haven’t found its limit yet, as I get more uncomfortable in the wind that it does!

I have had my mini 4 pro up in 35mph gusts and it flies ok against the wind. I’ve found the limiting factor is the gimbal jurking when parallaxing into the wind.

Hand catching is also a bit tasty as it bucks about like a bronco on heat, but you get used to it.

Experiment for yourself, fly against the wind to see its limit and make a note of it before you return it with the wind. :hugs:

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Thanks @LE60LAD. I disabled the Kp rule in UAV Forecast. I am genuinely talking about gusts only (and wondering about relative humidity perhaps). Good shout though!

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My Mini 4K is rated ‘wind level 5’, which equates to Beaufort Force 5, 24mph/38kph. I don’t go out with the drone if the forecast is for more than this, and by forecast I mean UAV Forecast app, which gives the wind gust speeds at different heights.

Of course, that doesn’t prevent me being caught out by higher winds than have been forecast, especially gusts around buildings, cliffs, being funnelled through narrow gorges &c. You develop a sense of what the wind is doing and how your drone will cope with it from flags, tree movement/noise, and such, but conditions 400’ up can be very different to what you are experiencing standing on the ground. The screen will warn you if your drone is struggling to hold position or is unsteady, and I have found when this happens that coming down 100’ or so solves the problem; I haven’t had to pack up and go home because of it yet.

The situation to avoid at all costs is where the drone cannot make headway against the wind and is being blown away from you, perhaps over water, a motorway/railway, or dense forest. If you are worried about wind and especially it increasing in strength, good airmanship is to fly the early part of the mission against the direction of the wind, then, should conditions deteriorate, you will be able to RTH with the wind behind you. Come home earlier than you normally would, because the knocking about the drone is getting will drain your battery quicker than normal as it constantly tries to correct itself

As for Relative Humidity, something else that UAV Forecast predicts, I used to worry about damp getting inside the drone and causing short-circuits, but I don’t any more because it’s quite warm in there… Don’t land in wet grass, though! What is worth looking out for is humidity in cool weather, when the windchill effect at the fast-moving prop tips can cause icing. You will not be aware until the warning comes up ‘propeller not spinning freely, land immediately’, and it will be a matter of luck if this is not already too late, especially if you are some distance from Home Point.

Flying in rain is not generally recommended, but, again, you can be caught out. The worst is drizzle or mist/fog, fine droplets that will insinuate themselves inside the drone and cause havoc; this is more dangerous than a heavy downpour. Avoid sea spray, as insidious as drizzle but with a corrosive element for even more fun… If you’ve got Mr Drone wet, turn him off & remove his battery as soon as you can, then dry him off and carry a silica gel bag to put inside him until you get home, then dry him out thoroughly on a radiator or in front of a heater.

I don’t know what happens if a drone is struck by lightning, but I suspect you’ll find it has become a paperweight with a story to tell, if there’s anything left to recover. I might be being overcautious, but I don’t fly if there’s a possibility of lightning strikes. I use an app called ‘My Lightning Tracker’ set to a40-mile radius of my position.

A general rule in poor weather is to keep close and upwind of your home point. I have obtained steady footage in wind conditions that the drone was struggling with and you could see it being tossed about; DJI gimbals are awesome!

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As an avid sea flyer I personally won’t go out in any gust over 13mph. I don’t care what DJI say, conditions can turn very quickly and I don’t fancy my Air 3s ending up in the Solent. :slightly_smiling_face:

Maybe you can share it with us one day, we’d love to see your footage. :wink:

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Do not ask @clinkadink

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What altitude do you check for? I usually check the wind at 55 m AGL (above ground level). Obviously, the higher I check, the stonger the wind (and gusts).

Wow, but 13 mh is very very low, if you don’t mind me saying. I actually lived in Southampton, it can be windy pretty often, don’t you find 13 mph very limiting?

A max of 13mph suits me fine for what I do out on the Solent… I get very close to big vessels and the last thing I want to deal with is vastly increased gusts whilst i am getting so close.

Call it a risk assessment. :+1:

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I was curious one day a couple of years ago when we had high winds for a few days. So I put my air2s up in 40+ mph winds & it flew brilliantly - a dog walker passing me even commented on how good it was flying in those conditions. Didn’t have it too high, maybe around 15m or so but it handled the wind very well

The only thing you know for sure about a forecast is that it’s wrong. Gust forecasts usually overstate the gust you are likely to experience but equally there might be occasional gusts stronger than the forecast. Wind in general and gusts in particular are much influenced by terrain and buildings upwind. Sooner or later you will fly in winds stronger than you are comfortable with. Learn to interpret how your own drone responds in strong winds and in gusts and that will let you arrive at your own numbers for limits.

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Agreed in general regarding many Apps. I however plug into a live wind sensor at my favourite flying location that’s updated every 5 minutes.

It shows me wind low, average, max and direction. It’s been very useful for me.

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Safe, or useful?

I’ve had my Air 3S out in 30mph gusts and not been worried about handling (though I don’t tend to fly very far away from myself and if the winds are up then I’ll only be flying over empty fields or beaches where I know I can dump it and walk 50m to pick it up if needs be.

Are the pictures/footage all that useful in 30mph gusts? Not usually, no. At least, not for what I like, but I guess it depends on what you’re capturing and why. Knowing your work, @uav_hampshire, I can absolutely see why 13mph is about your limit. :+1:

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13mph makes a lot of sense if you fly out over open water like UAV Hampshire does over the Solent or Southampton Water. Wind speeds are likely to be much higher over expanses of open water, and getting reliable local forecasts for them is not that straightforward; most of the specialised drone forecasts assume that you are on land, and you usually are but your drone might be several hundred yards offshore! I do quite a lot of coastal flying, and find informarmtion from sailing, surfing, and surfboarding sites useful for feeding into the holistic picture.

Forecasts use some of the most complex conputing on the planet, but you still have to interpret them with your local knowledge and experience, and, when you actually go outside, what the sky is telling you. As I say, my main app for drone forecasting is UAV Forecast, but I also use Ventusky, Windfinder, Met.Office, Weather Radar, & Lighting apps, not all of them all the time but as and when I think they are needed. Sometimes, of course, they conflict with each other, but even this can in itself be useful data for your interpretation of the situation.

Weather systems can reach to the edge of space, and be over a thousand miles across, vast masses of air affecting whole oceans or continents because they affect each other as well, but set against this is that significant local changes, within sight of where you are standing, can be and sometimes are triggered by tiny changes in temperature or pressure. Rain dances work because the percussive effect of the drumming affects atmospheric pressure within earshot, but the conditions have to be right in the first place. A frequent occurrence is a flash of lighting, and by the time the sound shockwave-front of the thunderclap reaches you, the rain it released from the cloud because it lowered the pressure that was holding it in has fallen to ground level, and you get a soaking!

Interpreting the conditions yourself, using information from the forecasts but not taking them as gospel, will keep you ahead of the game, usually in time to bring Mr.Drone hime before anthing bad happens to him!

Exactly that. :+1:

400’/120m, the highest I’m allowed to fly. UAV Forecast usually gives infomation for this AGL, sometimes less as sppropriate for cloudbase figures.