Met Police roll out ‘eye in the sky’ drone fleet to fight crime across London

Looks to be a DJI Matrice 4TD?

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It does look like the Matrice 4TD and that will be compatible with the DJI Dock solution and its able to fly in the rain - sounds like the perfect tool for the job.

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The most watched place on the planet just got more watched

1984 anyone ?

Probably keeping an eye on their own officers!

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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Just waiting for all the Karens to report they are being spied on by perverts…

Actually not a bad idea (the drones as first responders, I mean, not the Karens)! As for 1984, we are pretty closely watched & monitored anyway, but nobody is looking at the data most of the time, so don’t worry about it, trust me, nothing we do is of much interest to the authorities, or anyone else for that matter!

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Yep and I know exactly where the pic of that drone from the roof top was captured. I was there not 2 weeks ago. :slightly_smiling_face:

You think ?

Tell that to members that have had the police turn up on their doorstep.

Are there many that have had ‘the knock’ as a result of camera, never mind drone camera, survelliance, or have they been eyeballed by coppers/reported by Karens/jobsworths?

Triggering electronic detection (as I did accidentally a couple months back, few yards inside a prison restricted zone but well out of sight or thought of the prison) doesn’t count, I triggered it rather than being monotored by an oppressive police state. The apparatus for such abuse of power is there, of course; I write this sitting in a pub window seat and am in obvious view of 4, possibly 5 cams that I can see inside and outside the building, and fuck knows how many I can’t, information has been passed who knows where l about me from the till, oh, and a bus just went past, that’s got outside cams that can prolly see me as well.

Nobody’s looking. And if they are, they’re not looking for me or anyone like me. That way lies paranoia… Now, if I were to break my glass and stab the guy on the next table with it, or if he did that to me, then it is possible that the 5-0 might have a squiz at any footage they could recover, but, at present, I can pretty much guarantee that the forces of repression are not watching me! I’m not actually very interesting, and if they’re any good at their jobs, they’ll know that I’m fully repressed anyway, have been for years, and they can dismiss me as ‘job done’…

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I think you’re completely underestimating the pernicious capabilities of facial recognition technology.

Maybe they’re completely underestimating the pernicious capabilities of sunglasses and a hat :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Its not just your face its recognising, I have seen demos of kit that is looking at whole body mannerisms.

Ai is moving at a massive pace in surveillance

Well… …it’s either going to go one of two ways:

  1. An oppressive 1984 style Big Brother state develops, that will crush you at will, and there is nothing any of us can do to prevent it, or
  2. The technology with the potential to oppress isn’t used for that purpose, and we’ll all be fine.

Whichever scenario plays out, there is absolutely nothing that we can do to influence it, so don’t worry, go out and fly, and enjoy whatever time we have left. It’s not like anyone is getting out of this existence alive anyway :slightly_smiling_face:

Just going off thread for a little while (ish)

It’s not the catching of criminals that worries me, it’s how the data is used for everything else that bothers me.

I saw a demo of a set up in South Africa, GDPR isn’t as strong there.

But they showed a guy driving up the street, entering a multi storey , followed him into the coffee shop and ordering his latte and pastry.

Click of a button on the dudes number plate gave a history of his movements going back for ever.

Pretty ‘ordinary’ tech on a small business with half a dozen cameras.

Like I said, the apparatus is there but nobody’s monitoring the screens, unless a criminal or terrorist event provokes them to. And we want those sorts of people to be repressed, with extreme prejudice as far as is possible. I agree that in countries where the state is paranoid and has too much power surveillance tech is a problem, but we (fortunately) don’t have to contend with that here. Even in repressive states, the security forces have to target their victims because nobody has the manpower to target everybody. The Stasi tried in the old East Germany, by attempting to recruit the entire population to the ‘cause’; now that was pernicious, and way more intrusive than any tech can manage!

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Look at ANPR tech these days… In my place of birth there’s at least 6 ANPR cameras dotted around the area, they are certainly not there for the likes of traffic management information. A number plate these days can hold a miriade of markers on an individual who owns that vehicle.

ANPR has come on leaps and bounds in the last couple of years.

Even scarier is the device in your pocket and what it’s sending where

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Absolutely !

When I came to renew my driving licence at age 70 I were encouraged to create a gov.uk one log in. I entered all my details and it spewed me out, couldn’t verify my identity. Had to go to post office to renew.

Apparently I don’t exist.