I am not sure myself, but it would seem that when they refer to some it could be that some of the existing drones won’t be able to be rated and some will. Not familiar with the existing except mini and Mavic 2 myself, but maybe some of the older current drones can’t be firmware updated to fit into standards? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Yeah, maybe
After looking at their current drones I would assume they could all be firmware updated so it may be a hardware limitation like an older form of GPS technology or something. Hoping now that the Mavic 2 would be all good and not considered legacy. They are not giving away much but I guess there is a little hope for those that own one.
From the CAA
Maybe the model itself get the CE rating and therefore even without it printed it would be covered? Not sure how this would work as I am sure that if it was the model, then any legal issue would be covered. Its like driving a car without needing the tax disc displayed, maybe.
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huh?
If they continue to sell the Mavic Pro 2 with a CE rating then effectively there will be 2 exact drones on the market with just the difference being the CE printing. Maybe that won’t be an issue if it is the model itself that gets the CE rating?
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Starting from June 2020, new rules will define the usage of drones within the European Union.
The EASA (European Union Aviation Safety Agency) has not yet finalized the publication of certain standards regarding these regulations…
Will we still be in the EU after this date and will this make any difference to us in the UK.
Maybe a silly question. Just asking ?
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It’s the UKs intention for continued participation with EASA after EU withdrawal.
As a worst case no deal we would mirror EU aviation regulations for a minimum 2 year period.
So the EU regulations are here for the foreseable future.
Crashing out with no deal and cutting ties with EASA would be a massive blow to UK aviation industry.
Crashing out with no deal and cutting ties with EASA would be a massive blow to UK aviation industry.
We can’t crash out that’s a made up story and not the place to start a discussion … but it would be good for us in the drone would … Yes".
Make our own rules ect,ect.
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That’s from the CAA’s contingency planning for a non negotiated withdrawal.
Tell them that.
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Just had a look at that .
So we are stuffed anyway but loose then .
Apologies for my incessant use of ‘moving forward’… I’ll try to remeber to use ‘in the future’… In the future! 
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Have read thru the regs twice now and still do not know if my one year old Mavic Air will be flyable well into the future!!!
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Hello,
I’ve got a Zino 2 on preorder, it weighs 930grams. That’s why I’m asking about this. I understand the mavic 2 weighs just over 900grams also and so this also applies to mavic 2 users.
Here are the incoming EU rules for July 2020: New EASA drone rules - 1 July 2020
It states that if you fly a drone above 900g, you will not be allowed to fly it over uninvolved people.
The new rules also state that you will need to pass an additional test, at a test centre, which is bound to cost. That’s in addition to the online test.
There is one caveat. This chart seems to suggest that you only need to take the additional test centre test if you intend to fly your above 900g drone over uninvolved people. But the UK’s own drone laws say you can’t fly a drone with a Camera within 50 metres of uninvolved people anyway, so therefore this additional test centre test shouldn’t even be relevant to UK drone users, would it?
Even though it seems that way, I was reading earlier that a site is being set up for UK drone users to take the test centre test. Which doesn’t make sense if like I said, UK drone laws states you are not allowed to fly a camera drone within 50m of uninvolved people.
I’m trying to figure out if I should cancel my preorder and get a drone that weighs less than 900g. As long as I won’t have to go for an additional test centre exam I won’t have a problem with flying an above 900g drone because I won’t be flying it over uninvolved people anyway.
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My understanding is that the Air Navigation Order will be updated to match the EASA rules, I think this is set out in the CAA explanatory document linked earlier in this thread.
So I probably shouldn’t go buying a 930 gram drone now then. Not when there are identically performing drones below 900 grams.
I had the new Zino 2 on preorder, because it was available for a really good price. But the FiMI X8SE is basically identical and that one is well below 900g. It costs a bit more to buy but with these new EU regulations I suppose it’s worth to pay the extra and stay below 900g.
FiMI X8SE is launching a new model soon too. Probably worth me waiting to see the specs of that before I make a purchase.
For the new EU regs, you’ll only get the full benefit if a drone is properly CE-marked. I’m not sure if any are being sold properly marked yet.
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I dont think the technical requirements for each class have been finalised yet.
What happens then if I buy an 800g drone that isn’t CE marked?
The guidance is here: https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP1789%20EU%20UAS%20Regulations-Guidance.pdf
Clearly, manufacturers will need time to create products that are compliant to the standards and it is most unlikely that it will be possible to purchase a compliant device immediately. Therefore,some transitional arrangements have been developed as follows:
Unmanned aircraft which do not comply with the requirements of classes C0 to C4 are able to continue to be operated indefinitely within subcategory A3 (far from people) and, if they are less than 250g, within subcategory A1 (over people)
From 1 July 2022 onwards, Open category unmanned aircraft that are placed on the EU market (i.e. new products introduced for sale in Europe) must comply with the product standards and be marked with the appropriate class Number (C0 to C4)
Until 1 July 2022, additional transitional provisions have been made to enable unmanned aircraft:
with a mass of less than 500g to be used in subcategory A1
with a mass of less than 2kg to be operated in subcategory A2 down to a horizontal distance of 50m from people
subject to certain requirements regarding remote pilot competency.
Further details are provided within Articles 20 and 22 of the Implementing Regulation