Another Do I, Don't I (PfCO) question?

So here’s how it is for me almost 2 years after getting my PfCO…

I’ve still not got around to renewing my PfCO yet, I was going to before the current situation and found myself out of work… I had let it lapse for around 6 months so the CAA wanted new PfCO money instead of renew PfCO money. The CAA’s way of discouraging anyone from discontinuing to pay into their hungry cash cow!

I primarily used my PfCO to extend my skill set for engineering surveys. But money in reality comes from the technical engineering reports that I right. I just enjoyed flying in work time. My engineering work also gave me leads every now and then. That said, I can still get the same money from doing other reports and engineering without paying for the PfCO, insurance, equipment etc.

The biggest down side to trying to become a drone pilot as your main job is if the weather is rubbish or leads slow for days, then so is the pay. Engineering outside of Corona-virus generally always pays and is consistent. There were periods that I’d not take engineering work to allow me to fly, then I’d get days of shocking weather and no work.

Currently the drone industry is massively saturated and its a fight to get continuous work. A lot of my friends in the circle have had to cut rates to compete over the last year or so.

I may renew before the change of regulations to EASA come into play which has now moved again to the 31st Dec 2020. It is currently understood that this may give additional so called grandfather rights to existing PfCO holders. But I believe this is still a bit up in the air.

In addition to the above, there is a massive shoot out going on for the airspace that we fly in by the likes of google, amazon etc, who will pay billions to make commercial use of this airspace. We are currently being thrown under a bus and appear to be getting no representation as both professional drone pilots or hobbyists. Only the likes of the CAA and big corporations are being involved in taking our airspace from us. In addition, the government officials that are making legislation have no idea regarding drones and are incompetent no nothings who don’t know the difference between one end of a drone and another… so who knows what the future will hold. Right now are uncertain times for the RC hobby and drones.

If you can get a low cost PfCO course and will not be loosing too much by doing so, then go for it, but I’d advise not to stick all your eggs in that basket right now! If the cost given uncertainty is too high, then I’d advise to hold off until sometime next year. Right now PfCO work appears to be slower than normal, some companies are holding off on some projects requiring drone surveys while waiting to see what the economy does so work is still scarce out there.

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Thanks for the really great answers from you all to my do I, don’t I question. I guess for now I will just keep on flying and enjoying it and see how things pan out with the new EASA regs. Thanks again. :smiley:

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Well with 18 sleeps till Black Rat is opened to the big wide world I decided to take my CAA Billy Basic Theory and achieved 90%. It was for want of a better word fairly simple, it was just the old proverb I think RFQ. Hey ho, I was never very good at exams so shouldn’t grumble. I understand that it isn’t the be end and be all but a pass is still a pass.

Can I have your thoughts as to the pros and cons of obtaining a PfCO licence.

@Trickyhicky

@Trickyhicky, I think you’ve missed out on a PfCO… I believe the final submission date for a PfCO Ops Manual is some time mid December 2020.

You can do a GVC…

But have a think… is it really necessary?

Ned

Hold off until the EASA requirements become easier to understand.

Moving forward their will be no difference between commercial and recreational flying. The new A2 CofC and GVC ‘should’ surfice for most pilots

@Trickyhicky this question gets asked a lot so your post has been moved to a recent thread on the same subject.

You may also find this similar thread of use too: I've put my PfCO plans on hold

I think this is really simple: can you do everything you want with your drone within the bounds of the new Open categories A1, A2 and A3? If yes, you don’t need the replacement for a PfCO, the Operational Authorisation (OA). If no, then you will want to get a GVC qualification and then an OA.

Under the new regs (from January 1st) this question is pretty much entirely down to the size of your drone and how close you will want to fly it to people.

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I’m with you @DaveP64 why this is a fantastic forum, I’ve pondered on and off and thanks also goes to @PingSpike for making my mind up once and for all :joy::joy::joy::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Do you know if there is a simple table showing the operational differences between no licence, A2 CoC and GVC after 1st January for say both sub 250g and heavier drones?

Check out this post for the closest thing I’ve seen so far.

And if we could keep this thread relatively on topic please :+1:t2:

Also this post will assist. Between those two posts, they largely define which legacy drones can be used in A1/A2/A3, and what the limits of those three sub-categories are.

Basically: if you want to operate outside those limits (closer to people, above 400-ft, BVLOS etc), then your next step is a GVC/OA. If you can do everything you want within those limits, then you are fine with no qualification (A1 or A3), or with the A2 CofC (A2).

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Thank you troops for your input and not being too hard on stupid question time. Perhaps I should have looked a Frequently Asked Questions first. Oh well. it has been an interesting read through the thread, saturated market etc. As for the ESA site, I have now got to go to the medicine cabinet… hobby flying it is then.

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