Do you own an iPhone? If yes then stop trying to blame Bambu Labs, it’s their company they can do what they want, or do you not agree with the Apple ecosystem?
I am amazed at the amount of people complaining, but seeing more defending Bambu Labs, their printers work, I never have to bed level, very rarely lose a print, they just do what it said on the tin, if you are happy tinkering then fine I get it, I used to love tinkering too but not with 3D Printers, I nearly gave up with my 1st one the Ender 3 S1 Pro
Seems bit arse about face, purchase a BL printer and then finding out you are either not eligible or don’t agree to their terms and conditions, are you then stuck with a printer you can’t use and more to the point, would BL take the printer back and give you a full refund.
Just wondering how many people would think to read the terms and conditions before purchasing a BL printer and more importantly, just how easy it is to find them if you wanted to read them?
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The point is you are asked to agree to their terms and conditions, if you agree to them, whether you have read them or not, it is your fault if you don’t later agree to them.
It is not stopping me one iota using my X1C as I have from day 1, I preferred Studio over Orca slicer, nothing has changed for me, the only ones really up in arms are the print farms who don’t want to have to use Studio because they use Orca for their other printers as well as their Bambu’s.
Apple, Tesla and many more have a locked ecosystem to help protect their users, so why shouldn’t Bambu Labs?
They actually said from day one that they were not into open source, and wanted security over hacking, that is what they are doing, people can vote with their wallets and go back to inferior printers, I very much doubt they will and that it will affect Bambu Labs at all
Oh yeah I remember now they stole it
So glad I didn’t buy one and my trusted Ender 3 is working fabulously
This is a thread about the said printers good or bad, these ex DJI engineers are as trustworthy as there mates
Why you should care
Open-source collaboration has driven the rapid advancement of 3D printing, enabling companies like Bambu Lab to produce reliable, consumer-grade printers. While Bambu Lab has taken a more closed approach than other manufacturers, they’ve supported third-party integrations and open access in meaningful ways, such as their work on Bambu Studio, a PrusaSlicer fork, and MQTT endpoints for monitoring.
However, their decision to block third-party software access to their printers via a firmware update is a stark departure from this collaborative spirit. This change threatens the fundamental freedoms of hobbyists and professionals who depend on interoperability and flexibility. From here it’s a small step to making the firmware mandatory and prohibiting downgrades, after which Bambu Lab gets a veto over anything you want to do with your printer.
The workaround provided, Bambu Connect, adds additional overhead and difficulty to the process of printing for anyone not using Bambu Studio, is closed-source, and is not even feature complete: Linux support is “Under Development”, so anyone using Orca Slicer on Linux is simply out of luck for now. Video streaming is also not yet supported, so anyone using a third-party slicer can no longer benefit from one of the major features of their printer.
In short, this change has absolutely no benefit for end-users. It’s anti-consumer and represents a reduction of functionality in your printer. Further, it sets the stage for further changes that limit how you may use your printer, such as enforcing model licensing restrictions on-device and preventing third-party development of labor-saving enhancements such as the Panda Touch.
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I went with the Creality K1C instead of a BL printer and I’m glad I did. In no way is it an “inferior” printer BL products. 
Many thousands would disagree with you, glad you are happy, as am I
That may well be, but as Wayne points out, Bamboo Labs placing more and more restrictions on the way you can use or modify “your” printer, locking users in to the use of “their” software and the possibility of BL going further and having users pay for future software upgrades could well change that. But hey, what the hell do I know 
And their filament and other parts 
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Now that would be suicide for them, I don’t see that happening, but I could be wrong, very much doubt I am though
No we don’t need sensors for filaments so they would need to retrofit sensors, same again for parts, so no not really an issue and their parts are cheap enough to not warrant buying elsewhere.
You seem intent on finding a problem when there isn’t even one, nevermind the fact you don’t even own a Bambu Lab 3D printer, alas I am more than happy with mine, it does all I want it too and a whole world faster than any available Creality
Really? You own an X1C which I believe has a maximum print speed of 500mm/s, where as my K1C has a maximum print speed of 600mm/s. Feel free to correct me. 
Yes you are right on paper the K1C is faster, but that is on paper
You print on paper?
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Like I said
I have looked at purchasing one in the past and concerns about the firmware stopped me
Anything I find I will post here, if it’s not for you then don’t read or watch it but for me, it’s a record to go back to if needed
You are like my daughters, never tried Brussel sprouts but they hate them, if my memory serves me correctly you were also full of euphoria when the A1 bed cable saga started, go figure!
Here’s a saying in the 3D print community, if you want a 3D Printer buy a Creality, if you want to 3D Print buy a Bambu Labs, having actually owned both makes I can safely say I am more than happy never to use a Creality ever again 
I am a fully grown adult who has seen the embrace extend extinguish of Microsoft and Inject printer and the tractors john deere.
I could down load all the stats of my creality. It churns out prints. (But this is off topic)
Bambu printer are game changing for price quality. Unless there are prepared to take a lower margin that all the other players, the bump down in freedom and bump up of running cost is the future.
I very much doubt Bambu Labs need to reduce their prices, their share of the 3D print market is now faster than any of the others in the same field, I tried Creality and nearly gave up, too much bed levelling for me, my X1C does it automatically and just get s on with the job, it is for a hobby and has done over 2800hrs printing and failed 3 times.
Like you say each to their own, I’ll stick with mine
I think that reflects more on you than me
No, I just shared the info as I will state again this is a thread about Bambu labs printers, I wouldn’t call that euphoria!
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