Drone and Model Aircraft Registration and Education Scheme (DRES)

Fucking bullshit get-out clauses :angry:

Under section 12(1) of the FOIA, we are not obliged to comply with a request for information if the cost of complying with the request would exceed the appropriate limit of £450, which equates to a total of 18 hours of work.

I Think they need around 500,000 registrations to break even on the capital cost of setting up. If the cost of running the database is 2.8 million a year then about 300,000 new drone owners need to register in the next 12 months.

That may overwhelm the system though as apparently it takes one minute per query to exttract information from the database. I must remember to charge more than £450 every time someone comes demanding information from me :slight_smile:

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It’s another of those jobs where you could compare the data for them in 30 minutes top if you had it off their system in the right format.

There seems to be quite a lot of confussion over CAA registration.

Things like:
The Flyer ID should be labelled on the drone.
The drone is registered.
The Operator is the owner of the drone, it may be but doesn’t have to be.
Your friend can fly your drone because your Operator ID is on the drone but he doesn’t have a Flyer ID.
Plus more I am sure.

There are two registrations one as Operator and two as Flyer.

An Operator is anyone who is responsible for a drone, that could be your own drone a work drone or someone else’s drone. The point is that you are responsible for it. To obtain an Operator ID you have to pay the Ā£9.00 fee, you then need to label any drone over 250g that you are responsible for with your Operator ID. You are responsible for ensuring that anyone who flies a drone with your Operator ID label on it has a valid Flyer ID.

A Flyer who wants to fly a drone over 250g has to pass the CAA online theory test and get a Flyer ID, they can then fly a drone for which the have they permission to fly by the operator whose Operator ID is labelled on the drone. The Operator may be yourself or someone else. There is no fee for a Flyer ID and it is valid for three years.

For more detailed information you can visit Registering a drone or model aircraft | UK Civil Aviation Authority where you will find all you need to know and can take the test and register as an Operator, a Flyer or both. I hope this has been helpful.

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Isn’t that a bit stupid? If you’re paying your dues, why can’t you keep it?

What am I missing? :thinking:

This thread, probably :rofl:

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Thank you

Your answer is probably in this thread from last year, but in summary, it’s nothing more complex or in-depth than bad software design.

What are they running this on? A Sinclair ZX80?

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And 2.8 million a year to run it? Seriously?

Usually, the problem is higher up the chain from a coding perspective. If the requirements are poor, and unchallenged, a software engineer will just churn stuff out.

Very few SW engineers, these days, will actually challenge a requirement… above their pay grade.

All these frustrations and exorbitant costs could be eradicated very quickly and easily.

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If the same GADC members who are responsible for DroneScene are involved then yes - deadly serious - you could do well. But if the lowest tender was 750k and the winner was getting on for three mill don’t sell yourselves short. Go in at 500k or so and use the profit wisely :slight_smile:

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the Winner obviously knew the right palm to grease

like every governing body nowadays full of people with jobs that don’t really exist!
all wanting a piece of the pie

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Hi.
I’ve had a basic search around for this but can’t find anything on the CAA site.
If you own multiple drones do you need separate operator ID on each one. I’m assuming not as it’s called an operator ID and not drone ID.
I was challenged about this today when discussing another purchase. Cheers.

I moved your post over to the thread that covers pretty much everything that relates to DRES … including Operator IDs.

As you anticipated - the Operator ID is just that … irrespective of how many drones that operator has to which he attaches the same Operator ID number.

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Thanks Dave. Much appreciated.

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Do tell … :slight_smile:

I was looking over a mini and air2 that were for sale. The chap was quite insistent if I was keeping the Pro (which I am) that I needed to register it separate. I politely explained it was called an OP ID but he was so adamant and sincere he actually had me sat in the car checking this when I left.

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Ah, got you … so a private sale rather than a shop?

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Yes. Sorry should have been more descriptive in the last post.
He is moving to Canada and feels that their laws will be too much for him so selling his gear.

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