It’ll be a bit dark but I will oblige in a few hours!
So I have submitted my updated flight plan and detailed the additional conditions requested by the estate owner. These conditions are:
-They must know take off spot and all flight movements
-They insist on viewing the footage before I leave site
-They want to set a minimum altitude for recording footage.
Now before I continue, to clarify…I am going to fully comply with site requirements in this instance as the flight needs to go ahead and I am running out of time.
It does however raise some interesting questions regarding whether or not the conditions not relating to flight as agreed between the estate, the CAA and myself would be binding under the law.
-If I refused to let them view the footage afterwards for example, would this be breaking the law?
-They surely would not have powers of detention or seizure?
-If I recorded at a lower altitude, would this be deemed actually breaking the law?
The CAA seemed to imply that conditions that site impose would be added to any permission granted in print.
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Bad news. EDF have at the last minute declined the flight. By telephone they confirmed they never had much intent on letting the flight take place. CAA admit they are probably not complying with the requirements of CAP722C but they will not investigate further as they have no remit for this. There is no avenue of appeal as the only form for this does not yet include the nuclear sites. Essentially, some uneducated low paid security manager sitting in a box office all day, subcontracted to a French firm has the ability (via a FRZ Sponsorship) to dictate terms of the law in the UK. Absolutely shocking. Sponsors are apparently able to pick and choose their own criteria without oversight from the CAA. Madness…
Damn! That must be so frustrating.
Yes, it really is. But saying that…I feel a civil movement coming on. I have submitted a lengthy FOI request to the CAA to find out some key details relating to this. Including how much EDF pay for their ‘Sponsorship’ of the exclusion zone. It may just be a case of keeping the big customers happy as the CAA must self fund its own existance. Smaller drone users paying a pittance per year are not going to get a look in. I
Are you going to do it anyway ?
Is there a particular reason for the flight? Or is that to remain confidential for now?
I’d really love it if you’re only wanting to do the flight to be bloody minded … because you should be able to to.
I just want to do it because I have a right to do it. It will also make a good vid I think. This was supposed to be an easy project…
Love it!
I cant, too much to lose! As the french are making the laws in Dungeness I may end up in the guillotine if I try anything…
Choose your day, choose your time, put it up, get your video and land before anybody realises It’s even happened
As we clearly have issues wih FRZ Sponsor abuse of CAP722C at nuclear sites. I would like you to join me in a game of NUCLEAR BINGO. Two to win! Get your applications in now to protect our rights to the airspace!!
Edited to show the completed squares @richardmarsh888
Is it this bit in 722c that you have in mind as being abused?
“Sponsors must be clear when issuing a permission to enter airspace, what the scope of
that permission is, and that other permissions may also be required (either from the CAA,
or from other sponsors).
Policies employed by sponsors to disproportionately limit access to a zone, such as the
ones listed below are not appropriate in many circumstances:
Blanket ban on UAS activity (or manned aviation within a UAS Geographical Zone)
without justification;
Charging a fee for access to airspace;
Refusal to engage with permission requests;
Lengthy delay in replying to a request
The CAA may reconsider the suitability of the UAS Geographical Zone’s existence if it is
not satisfied that the airspace is being used in a fair or equitable manner”
Thats right. EDF in this instance have issued me with notice of a blanket ban.
I will certainly join you in lawful action to stop this unjustified holding to ransom.
Do you think I should initiate a parallel action to yours - as I’d like to take some videos of the old coastguard shack and beach near dungeness, or maybe try a different track so we can compare notes?
Please, this would be helpful! In fact I think we should all arrange a trip to fly at our local! I have already put another application in for 3rd July!!
Just put it in a request to fly at Sizewell Beach.
Summary of application:
Activity Type: Exemption Request for an Existing Nuclear or Prison Restricted or
Prohibited Area
Activity Date: 31/07/22
Start Time: 10:00
End Time: 12:00
Latitude and Longitude: N52 12 17 E1 37 16 (WGS84 Co-ordinates)
Radius: 1 Kilometres
Upper Limit: 120 metres Above Ground Level
Lower Limit: 0 metres Above Ground Level
Brief Description of Event/Activity: Requirement for exemption to fly 249g
(open A1) drone over beach near Sizewell Beach Car Park
Contact Telephone Number During Event/Activity: 07xxxxxxxxx
Frequency (UHF / VHF):
Nuclear or Prison Installation Name(s):
- Sizewell (EG R217)