National Trust Policy Correspondence

Dronescene does that

All the info on where the data comes from is here

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Sorry - where exactly? This from the website refers to NT land but does not give source of info or maps:

" Always Open:

  • Approximately 114,000 hectares of National Trust land that the public has access to on foot only either by right (in the case of designated ‘Access Land’ under the Countryside Rights of Way (CRoW) Act 2000) or by permission from the National Trust. Rights over Access Land are limited by CRoW and may be further restricted or excluded due to particular land management reasons
  • National Trust do not permit drone operators to take off or land on their land
  • National Trust cannot prevent drone operators from flying over their land

Limited Access:

  • Approximately 19,300 hectares of National Trust land where the public has limited access. This data shows areas where access is restricted for at least one of the following reasons:
    • The land is enclosed as part of a National Trust Estate
    • Access is restricted to a dense path network
    • There are specific reasons the land is not Always Open e.g. Safety concerns

For more infomation visit the National Trust FAQ."

The link to the NT website does not provide maps or underlying data. I am still looking for underlying source data.

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And if you download the data sets there is no information relating to exact map co-ordinates or references. It’s very frustrating trying to find anything reliable that could be used to definitively define where they’re land starts and finishes for any given property.

I too have sent in a FOI request to the NT but not being governed by the FOI regulations I’m 99% certain they won’t bother replying let alone passing on any information.

Good on you Phil. :smile:

Oh damn!! so that means that when I rode my bike into Clumber Park back in the 1960’s and also drove there in more recent times, I’ve been breaking the rules . . .
:slight_smile:

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Thanks for all the hard work you’re putting into this. :clap:

Damm - broke the rules twice this morning riding to and from Cannock Chase through Shugborough :blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:

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Three Hail Mary’s for you then!

Try this link https://nationaltrust.maps.arcgis.com/
It has the info you are looking for and includes how long NT had the land an who gave it to them

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If you know your going to TOAL from public land but fly over one of their properties it may be worthwhile taking a little time on that site, putting in the map data and detail and printing off the boundaries of the site your visiting just in case a NT staff member approaches you.

In fact, I feel a little lockdown project coming on. Create colour PDF’s of their most popular sites and they can be pinned to this site for download by anyone planning a visit and those that aren’t there can be added to a list to be worked on. It is, after all, all open source material and free to re-produce.

Like this … Rayleigh Mount.pdf (309.3 KB)

If that doesn’t load it can also be done as a .jpeg but its more convaluted …

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Nice map.
So just to clarify - if you want to be sure to stick to the rules - you shouldn’t take off from any of the coloured areas?

I think it’s just the orange Blue or Purple areas.

I agree and would also like to suggest that when an authority quotes GDPR then we should get back to them and ask which section they have concerns about. Rather that allow them to use it as an umbrella, if they have to quote section numbers etc. it could be interesting.

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No, coloured areas are the areas they own. The colours denote the time they acquired it. outside of the coloured areas is either public or non NT private land.

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Well done for pointing this out to them

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Not as bad as a 17 year old buying an used 50cc motorbike off ebay, and being on the road ten minutes later :man_shrugging: And that has been the way since year dot. I know what I’d prefer to be hit by :+1:

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Not entirely correct

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Apart from the CBT they need…

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Which also perfectly illustrates my point. It was a free-for-all, with easy availability and little governance of checking the riders knowledge of the law. It’s almost the same as the current drone regs but if a specific model of Honda moped was left out. It’s an anomaly.