Great video Ian, very well summarised. 
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*apps other than NATS are also available
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Well after looking at all the rules as far as I am concerned they can go fuck themselves with the rough end of a pineapple
All my drones are now for sale it’s all getting very boring now
Sold mavic Air so mavic 2 is next to go along with all cases spares ect
Do gooding save the whale left wing burn ya bra health and Safety have taken away natural
selelection Trouble is they have bred
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@milkmanchris True! I tend to quote NATS as they’re Air Traffic Control but should defo check the others out.
@scorps Well, couldn’t have put it more succinctly if I tried… 
Excellent video, Ian, really clear. And you were clearly right not to try and keep it under 10 minutes 
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No mention of legacy drones here on the BBC.
If people read this then it suggests that most people can fly in A2.
Am I right in thinking this would fall into the “commercial or industrial” category, even though it’s not like a huge factory building?
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I would think so, yes
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Thanks for your reply. I’ll take a look through the various articles. Slightly miffed that my question has been dropped into this rather general topic on rule changes as I was hoping to get some specific thoughts on flying in Oxford.
Not really sure what it is we are looking at but I assume it is some sort of industry (fish farms?). That being the case, then common sense that it is commercial/industrial.
The question is asked everyday at least once for different areas
Take a look at FPVUK article 16 (in this thread) which might give you a little more leeway.
Also the councils can stop you taking off and landing on their land but not flying over it, the trouble you may encounter is more of causing a nuisance or privacy issues (from the local bobbies)
Fair enough. I did search before posting to see if there was an answer but didn’t find anything. Do other city councils have the same outlook? I’d be really interested in hearing about that. Oxford always seems a bit ‘unique’ in its outlook.
Most councils have some sort of blanket ban bye-law, although they cannot stop you flying over their land (like they cannot stop BA flying their passenger jets doing the same).
It’s sometimes worth while to have a look a your local newspaper/online to see how many folks have been charged with breaking drone rules (the press love that sort of thing)
I filed a FOI request to North Yorkshire Police about this time time last year to see how many drone related incidents they had been called to, perhaps ask Thames Valley the same?
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Anyone know if it’s a set time today the new rules kick in or have they started? 
That’s a matter of some controversy - which even the police appear to be confused about.
I asked that exact question of the CAA and they said “the rules start on 31st Dec”.
Yes, I asked - but when? Do they apply on the 31st Dec itself?
“the rules start on 31st Dec”. they replied.
Similarly all their documentation talks about the rules on 31st Dec onwards vs pre-31st Dec.
So I think the CAA have been reasonably clear that the new rules are now in effect (though they could have been a lot clearer).
I admit, I’ve not studied the 100’s of pages of actual legislation.
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I suspect 23:00 which is midnight in Europe.
But looking at Facebook groups, I think it started 3 months ago and also allows Air 2s to be flown anywhere 
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Yes, it is a fish farm. I agree, common sense prevails.
As per the actual regs:
It shall apply from 31 December 2020.
It’s live. Go forth and multifly.
If challenged, the defence "some bloke on the Internet told me" is acceptable in any court of law. 
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Sounds good to me 
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As per other thread, my view is the writers of the regs didn’t intend for agriculture / farming to be “commercial areas”, otherwise A3 is absurdly limited. I take “commercial areas” to be areas where commerce is happening i.e. shopping and banking.
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